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I blame Jesus. If not for him - we'd probably still be believing in sacred forests and shit.
Eh, it's not as if the romans were too kind to the forests. So if you're going back in time kill Caesar too before he genocides gaul of the protectors of the forest the Celts
Correction: if not for the people who INVENTED Jesus.
Jesus, the person, existed as far as academic consensus is concerned.
Jesus, the son of God, on the other hand, only exists in the heads of the delusional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Yeah, the academic consensus of Christian theologians 🙄
Obviously true.
Or references to him form ANYONE who were alive at the same time he supposedly was, for that matter.
Also factually accurate.
Because guess what? The people who choose to dedicate their lives to studying theology or first century Palestine history tend to be people who believe in the myths. It's inherent confirmation bias.
Next you're going to tell me that it's an undisputed fact that draconian punishment reduces crime rates, based on the testimony of cops and conservative demagogues 🙄
I recommend reading the Wikipedia page. It debunks your debunking quite thoroughly.
Christians aren't the only people to have studied that time period.
Jesus was a man of near no economic means and no military power. The fact there's even any historical references to him is a klaxon for his existence. I'm from an area of the world that has next to no written records for the entire peoples that lived here throughout several centuries of the early middle ages, and yet it's not doubted they existed. It seems then pretty difficult to doubt the existence of a single man with which there's so much written from an even earlier period.
If Jesus existed in modern times I'm sure there'd be conspiracies that the CIA is trying to wipe out the memory of the slave abolitionist and communist revolutionary. But because a cult of personality and religion got built around him for centuries, that is now one of the dominant philosophical and political powers in the world, the opposite view is taken. It's all a conspiracy, maaaan!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts
"He's real because it was weird that someone made him up" 🙄
Yeah, those WILL leave traces beyond the written records. Where's your archaeological proof of the significant carpenter?
Yeah, someone being written about a lot even though they're not rich DOES prove that they're real! Case in point:
Nah, if he lived in modern day, he'd probably be murdered by the IOF, being a Palestinian from the West Bank.
Fixed it for you.
Bolded the operative words.
The myth have been kept alive not by being true, but by being a tool of domination for those who have and want to maintain power.
Or to quote Eleanor Ferguson, "Christianity didn't become a world religion because of quality of its teachings, but by the quantity of its violence"
Similarly, the Liberal Zionism-esque "compromise" of Jesus being real but not divine was established not from the preponderance of evidence or even reason, but from being overly trusting of biased authority figures.
A braggart known to exaggerate and embellish accounts to make himself and the Jewish people look good.
And he wasn't born until the supposed Jesus had already died, making all the things he "reported" about it as an adult historian decades old hearsay at best.
As for Tacitus, that was one passage in 116 CE, a modern day lifespan after the events described where he gets names and titles wrong and doesn't reference a source.
Hardly the irrefutable evidence you like to pretend it is.
because can you imagine what would happen to academics if academia decided jesus didn't exist.
Wasn't Joshua (aka Jesus) a rabbi?
I think monotheistic messianic religions were kind of unavoidable seeing how in every part of the world they have been the most successful religions once societies become more complex and interconnected.
Only if you define Buddhism as more successful than Hinduism and Confucianism, and define pre-Buddhism India and China as simple or isolated.
Modern Hinduism precisely changed a lot to compete and stay relevant when other faiths starting to show up in India.
It became much less focused on the polytheism and much more focused on philosophy like Buddhism.
Their own polytheistic beliefs has been shaped to be more similar to the Christian trinity. And many gods are seen as part of one supreme God.
It's just natural evolution of religions. In ancient times religions where about explaining natural phenomena. Thus we had the god of the sea, the god of the sun, the god of the rain, etc.
As those things got explained by science the gods needed to become more philosophical and vague.
Also societies got bigger. You used to have the god of your tribe, and rhe tribe next to you had another god, a d you fight one against the other. Then people lived in empires, with millions of people under an unique faith. To keep them all united a single good and a well structured religion is more useful.