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Aight, I know this comment is gonna bite me later, but I gotta speak my piece. I'm playing devil's advocate here. Beastiality, zoophilia, whatever you wanna call it... It isn't always a case of raping the animal. What is consent? It is ultimately an extremely arbitrary idea that humans fling around. For human-on-human interactions, obviously society has cemented it as something with clear-cut lines and rules. But, that's pretty much where it ends for us. Consent from animals is not something we ever seriously consider in any way.
Think about it. Did domesticated species, which we have dominated for our benefit, consent? Do dogs consent to anything we put them through as our pets? Do cats? Birds? Bugs?! The answer is no. We cannot communicate with other animals. So we forgo consent when it comes to the animals we interact with. Even when it comes to things that really has no direct benefit to the animal.
All I'm saying is, rape is rape, for sure. But when it comes to inter-species erotica, as a man once called it, it can't all be rape. Because animals rely on instinct more than anything, especially when it comes to sex. I guarantee a horse will show you when it doesn't appreciate it being touched in the no-no spot.
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If you can adequately prove to me that the animal understood and consented then what happens between you and the goat is your own business.
It takes more than enthusiastic participation: it also requires the ability to appropriately conceptualize what's being consented to. It's why drugging someone and then using their enthusiasm as consent doesn't fly, or why a 13 year old can't consent to a relationship with someone much older than them.
A goat understands goat sex well enough that we all generally agree they can consent if they're obviously into it.
A goat does not understand interspecies sex well enough to consent, regardless of their interest or arousal.
At best your claim is that sometimes it's closer to "statutorily raping" an animal, commonly known as "rape".
So put the horse back in the barn before you let the horse out of the barn.
Bro, you basically implied I can't consent.
How so? Elaborate.
Could probably work out an arrangement with dolphins and higher apes.
Consent does not matter. To say it matters in this instance is insanely hypocritical. Unless you have that stance on literally every other aspect of our dominating other species for both our and their own benefit.
Statutory rape is a legal term for humans. It is not something that applies to other animals. Rape is rape. Since consent does not matter with animals, the best we can do is infer using context. Is the animal restrained in any way? Have they drugged the animal? What's the relationship between the animal and person? Etc.
We let cats go wherever they want and do not touch them without consent (platonic sense).
You need to be sprayed without consent.
Three separate comments? Someone's upset-y spaghetti.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that animals have no understanding of consent, I think the issue is that there's a communication barrier in dealing with humans (I.e. they can't say 'yes')
Zoologists have a pretty robust understanding of rape and consent within the animal kingdom, but it's always through observing interactions between animals.
The point is consent is something that doesn't matter to the conversation of people who do the deed with animals. I think a much more productive line of questioning would be: Is the animal restrained in any way? Have they drugged the animal? What's the relationship between the animal and person?
I don't really care about the hill you've chosen to die on, but I will sit here and watch what happens.
I expected more tbh. The day is still young, though.