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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So you haven't bothered to do any more research, correct? Do you really care about the truth? Or do you only care about winning an arguement?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Buddy, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

And you can talk all you want about how I "don't care about the truth," no amount of posturing will change the objective fact that 7 is less than 20. I'm the only one here basing my beliefs in anything factual.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol you're literally asking me to do your work for you.
No, if you're interested, YOU can go and do the research, like I've been telling you for the last five comments.

And you can talk all you want about how I “don’t care about the truth,” no amount of posturing will change the objective fact that 7 is less than 20.

The truth is normal people waited 10 or more years, sometimes more than 20.
I mean you wouldn't know, because you haven't bothered to do any additional reading. I've already proven it to my own statisfaction, now you can do the same.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You've proven it to my satisfaction too! I'm using your own source, which literally says, word for word, that the wait time was 6-7 years! Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!

I'm not surprised that you've "proven it to your own satisfaction," given that your standards of evidence are random Quora users and Russian state media you don't even realize is Russian state media! And even they say you're wrong! Literally the only standard you're applying is, "What makes the USSR look bad" or "What lets me win this argument."

I really don't know what you're getting out of this. You are not going to convince me that when it says, "the average wait time was 6-7 years" it actually meant 20-30. You're not going to convince me that 6-7 is basically the same as 20-30. You're not going to get me to do your homework for you. Your source says 6-7, not 20-30 so that's what I'm going with. This is incredibly straightforward.

I legitimately can't tell if you're just trolling me or if you're legitimately unable to understand this. Just find a schoolbus in the morning, and get on it. You need more help than I could ever provide.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok, I see that you're more interested in winning an arguement than what is really true. I'll say it one last time,
In real life, the wait time for the average person to get an apartment in the USSR was more than 10 years, sometimes up to 20 or more. This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say. If you don't believe me go back and read them in greater detail, or even better do some additional reading of other sources that I didn't list.

Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!

Because i'ts not my job to educate you. I told you what to do, now you can choose to do it.

God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Bro, it doesn't matter how many times you say something. What matters is what the fucking source says. It's like you think if you just say something loudly and confidently enough, that somehow makes it true. It's ridiculous.

This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say.

That's just an outright lie. I saw the source, you saw the source, I don't know who you possibly think is going to fall for that. ~~Nobody else is reading this far into a pointless argument in a 4 day old thread~~ (apparently one person did, hi, upvoter) Like, literally:

Who am I going to believe? You, or my own eyes?

God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.

Buddy, I understand you're just trying to copy what I said, but you have absolutely no leg to stand on here. The screenshot is literally right there like a smoking gun. If you're not trolling and aware that you're spewing bullshit, you have to be the most ignorant person on the planet.

But you know what? Fine. I looked into it and here's my source saying it's 6-7 years.