But if property rights are a construct of the state, and a judge is acting as a representative of the state, wouldn't the parent serve as permission from the progenitor of the property?

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

Only if you consider the state as legitimate. Depending on the story it's also not that they must have an invitation from the owner of whatever dwelling they wish to enter, but the invitation of anyone residing within.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its personal property rights. The vampire must ask the tenant not the landlord to be invited into the apartment.

That or it could be as simple as any human on the other side of the threshold. Traditionally vampires or sort of autistic. Throw beans at them and they must stop to pick up each one.

[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

If you live in a shared house and your roommate invites the vampire in, do you have to be polite and go say hello or can you stay in your room?

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But if property rights are a construct of the state, and a judge is acting as a representative of the state, wouldn't the warent serve as permission from the progenitor of the property?

I think it just comes down to which you think came first. If your version of vampires emerged after the creation of states (say, they were like Roman or something) then their rules would likely respect the authority of the state due to someone's willing participation in its authority.

If your version of vampires are pre-historical, then no. The state is a construct that has no bearing on individuals.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The Vampire Diaries universe does follow the authority of the state and they play around with it in fun ways. Like they’ll transfer the deed to a property to someone else to reset who’s allowed to enter the house. I have a hazy memory that one time someone had a house foreclosed on so they’d be able to enter. I’m not sure about warrants though.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they're respecting deeds, then by proxy they'd have to respect a warrant since both of those derive their legitimacy through the state

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I think so too. Also notably to your first comment, in the vampire diaries universe the first generation of vampires were in like the 10th century, so some concept of a state, property rights, and the ability of the state to take away property rights did exist.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every time I hear someone talk about Vampire Diaries lore I get closer to watching it despite the CW ness, I love a show that plays with the details of its lore like that.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

I highly recommend The Originals, it’s one of the spinoff shows and follows the 3 first generation vampires in New Orleans and is a bit more serious and adult than TVD or the other spinoff. It’s the only one I’ve actually watched all the way through.