They had to add in "using our tax dollars" to make Americans care lol, even when actual victims are mentioned consequences for U.S citizens remain the focus, get real.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

the posters on the website are all only how this negatively affects americans

Huh huh huh

Were the 168 school girls American (underlined for focus) or were they not negatively affected?

Or is it your belief that you actually should never mention that imperialism also has negative effects at home? That's not even left liberal, that's right liberal.

[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

My point is that of the average messaging amongst the total posters, the emphasis is on how it negatively affects Americans, if you want to call me a liar because I said "all" instead of "most", and there happens to be a poster or two that mentions actual victims but ultimately circles back to Americans, go ahead.

I have no problem with the mention of "how imperialism also has negative effects at home". Like other replies rightly pointed out, it's an attempt to meet Americans where they're at.

But is it not pathetic that ~~all~~ sorry- most domestic "leftist" political campaigns have to lead with "how imperialism also has negative effects at home"? A significant amount of the posters on that site emphasize that this war only benefits the wealthy, as if it'd somehow be more just should the average U.S citizen enjoy the spoils instead.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I called you a liar because you lied and used that lie to call for violence against literally the only people organizing against the war in the US.

But is it not pathetic that all sorry- most domestic "leftist" political campaigns have to lead with "how imperialism also has negative effects at home"?

Do you have one single example of a revolution that wasn't primarily concerned about what was happening at home? Call it pathetic, but there has never in human history been a revolution just because of what was happening 'over there'.

A significant amount of the posters on that site emphasize that this war only benefits the wealthy, as if it'd somehow be more just should the average U.S citizen enjoy the spoils instead.

Or just an extremely straightforward explanation of the Leninist understanding of imperialism. When he said monopoly capital caused the war for their own gain, was it because he wanted three Russian workers and peasants to get the spoils?

[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

I made no lies or serious calls for violence, c'mon. You're more upset that I called out another toothless, dead-end effort by the left adjacent in the U.S.

My other comments were in regards to the electoral efforts in the U.S. These have nothing to do with revolution and will not lead to one.

If you disagree just move on.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 5 hours ago

But is it not pathetic that ~~all~~ sorry- most domestic "leftist" political campaigns have to lead with "how imperialism also has negative effects at home"?

When agitating amongst a population you have to speak to their material interests