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Yeah, there's gonna continue to be manned travel in the sense that there will be researchers in high orbit doing micro-gravity experiments. But crewed missions traveling to this or that celestial body? Landing on them? No way. Not this century. Probably not the next one either. There's just... not really any reason to send people that far up the gravity well. Any research, any scientific breakthroughs to be had, will be exponentially cheaper, safer, and easier to do with specialized remote crafts and tools. Colonization is, of course, so laughably out of the picture for anyone at any point for the next seven generations (and probably the next seven after that), it hardly bears mentioning.
Maybe if Artemis II happened a few years ago, I'd be crankier about it. It's pure boondoggle. Hogwash. A humbuggery of planetary proportions. It's really really funny. Real dying empire hours. A cargo cult recreation, not understanding why the first half-dozen or so moon landings (both crewed and otherwise) were scientifically and historically important, but trying to manufacture that importance anyway.
ADVERTIZING! IN! SPACE!How can you not get a chuckle out of that? Americana absurdity par excellence.
these days the thing I'm really concerned about^[at least, the broad view from 50,000, but looking out rather than in. Plenty of concerning things happening on the ground....] is that company saying they're gonna put mirrors in orbit so they can "sell sunlight at night"
Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society, but what tells you it will be "humbugless"? I know that research is far cheaper, safer and easier with specialized robots than with people, I just don't see why that matters. My idea is that people will land on the moon under communism because (1) it is possible, and (2) it is really really cool.
Edit: To be clear about my biases here: I was born roughly midway between Apollo 17 and Artemis II, and the first time I ever said what I wanted to be when I grew up, my answer was that I wanted to be the first person to set foot on Pluto. So if you're old enough to remember the '60s and '70s, then sure, I can understand finding Artemis II to be a complete wet fart compared to the Apollo program. You were there, you'd know. What I find less understandable is the certain majority of Hexbears who grew up in the '80s~'10s who have never in their lifetimes seen a human being go beyond LEO… I mean, yeah, sure, it's Been Done Before, but you haven't been there to see it happen, right?
So when I saw the Artemis II launch live, I was genuinely moved to tears. I felt connected to everybody else who saw the launch live with me, and to the past generations who saw the Apollo launches live. A launch like Artemis II is literally something I've been waiting two lifetimes to get to see happen, so when people go around making fun of it I get a bit irate. Like, there are many, many critiques of the program that are completely fair and that I don't mind reading or hearing, but when people come across as actually accusing anyone genuinely emotionally moved by the mission of being stupid… Y'know? I just don't like it. I don't like feeling like people are calling me stupid for liking things.
I am in favor of going to space cause it's cool. I'm more of a build a fuckload of orbital space stations kinda guy tho. The moon is cool but dammit I wanna leave on an orbital colony and die fighting for Zeon
It's not cool. We don't need to go up.
We need to go down. Defund all space programs. We need digging platforms.
How about we compromise and go sideways
Fun fact: theres more unexplored space inside the earth than in the whole galaxy