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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be clear, he was not an eco fascist, he stood against fascism. But he was en eco terrorist.

Not really enjoying this trend of everything being labelled as "fascism" these days.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

For real. It waters down the meaning of the word "fascist," and now when I talk about actual fascism (with a well-informed take because I only use that word when I'm applying it correctly), people don't take me seriously because they think I'm just "labeling everyone you disagree with as a fascist."

I'm not. I disagree with everyone I label as a fascist, yes. Because I disagree with fascism and I only label fascists fascists. But I'm perfectly capable of disagreeing with someone without labeling them a fascist, if they're not a fascist. I do it all the time!

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck. I don't really care if the duck says its not a duck and that it is against ducks, its still a duck. When you go about blaming the lefties (of which he labelled fascists as leftists) and the gays, and envisioning a society that would functionally genocide a bunch of people I am gonna call you a fascist. Cause if we just got rid of technology and returned to primitive living, a lot of people would die. Namely disabled people and people with chronic illnesses. It is indirect eugenics. Its exactly why most anarchists nowadays do not associate with anarcho-primitivists, and call them eco-fascists as well.

The reason why people like Bookchin and Bari are better is because they critique industrialization while putting forward solutions that don't kill a bunch of people.

And lets not pretend like fascism is this coherent or cohesive ideology. Its an ideology of opportunism. Mussolini and Hitler were vastly different, and even just comparing Mussolini's writing to his actions there's a lot of differences. For example Mussolini's writings were anti-monarchist, yet the monarchy remained in fascist Italy because it gave him an opportunity.

Ted might not have been a fascist ideologically, but his ideology is not incompatible with fascism. And the consequences of his ideology is still genocide, even if indirectly. So maybe rather than fighting over whether it is or isn't fascism, we should fight it cause it is bad and harmful.