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Over 80% of the world's solar panels, wind turbines AND batteries.* And over 70% of the world's EVs.
China is quite literally starting to power the whole world. I think we're already at the point where no country could possibly afford to go to war with them.
Are they ever going to turn their power outwards? Or is the plan to just sit there quietly and win so hard that they eventually buy up the whole world's private equity?
No. China's position in the world today is progressive and historically necessary, but the material conditions of their state structure virtually guarantees that they will continue doing the most conservative version of socialism possible. If there is a world revolution, they would represent the right wing of the revolutionary movement, assuming they don't outright oppose it (their national wealth is built upon global capitalism, after all). Critical support to China of course, but I fully expect to be disappointed by them at some point
Material conditions and such
Jokes aside, I wouldn't be so pessimistic about China's position in a world revolution. In a revolutionary junction, material conditions can change rapidly, and thus allegiances and state incentives. Thought China's wealth is currently built upon global capitalism, this global capitalism is being undermined by the capitalist powers (who keep attempting wars and protectionism) while China's own industry switches over to an entirely new mode of energy extraction and transformation.
I've seen it with my own eyes, China's transformation has been truly rapid, and this cannot come without the Chinese state being forced to adopt new positions further down the line. Who knows, their hands might be forced by the simple act of the US deciding randomly to invade Taiwan.
Yes, but they can change in any direction. I hope China would not follow the path of right SRs.
As a former China hater, the one nation that consistently made me apologise for underestimating them has been China.
I think pessimisn on the Chinese role in geopolitics at this stage in history might be unfounded or without meaning, especially since the economic trend has been pushing China closer with the global south.
I was never a China hater, but I don't think China is going to do much to help socialism. Still, current Chinese foreign policy is a massive improvement compared to how horrible it was in 1970-80s.
China is certainly not gonna be the USSR in its aggressive support for other revolutions, but they take seriously fraternal socialist and revolutionary relationships. They have a single defensive alliance: with the DPRK. They provide substantial energy aid to Cuba, as we're discussing here, and a lot of food. They propped up Venezuela's economy through oil purchases and did the same for Iran (not socialist, but its own revolutionary thing, you know). They're very involved in aiding agricultural and energy development in the AES, especially Burkina Faso. They'll build a deeper relationship with a socialist nation when they get the chance.
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