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I've twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus' name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.
I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.
Playing devil's advocate: science hasn't cracked any of those yet either.
Solving those problems is not part of science's purview.
It absolutely is. They're sociology problems. Observations can be made on causal factors in society, changes made, effects observed, results shared.
Have a read of the book "The Science Of Racism" for how science can give a insight into dealing with a social issue.
True, and the scientific method and results have made wars more intensely deadly; but science doesn't claim if you say some magic words you can have absolutely anything you want. The scientific method is by far the best way we've found that lets us figure out what is real and what is nonsense - no other method comes anywhere close to it.
It has helped to improve on those issues though.
People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess.
I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war that's clearly ongoing