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To be fair... People in China can afford a house and put food on the table. Maybe authoritarianism isn't necessarily the problem here
China has both a government issue and a culture issue.
People in China can afford a house?
Yea I mean I guess you are technically a homeowner if you count your ancestral home in your parent's hometowns...
So if you wanna stay there... you have to work the farms... manually, no john deree machines (or whatever Americans have), most people in China (at least back in the day) did not have machines to help with farming.
Its very tough, there are parasitic worms that will bite you and suck your blood... at night there are bugs that will latch get into your house and try to get in your mouth and it one such bug nearly suffocated my mom in the middle of the night (or something like that... my mom told me about waking uo in the middle of the night and there was some insect/worm or some shit) and then I'd wouldn't be born just hearing about it give me the heebee jeebies
In the cities is where people go to get better jobs, then you have no Hukou so if you have kids... they can't even go to public school there.
My parents were lucky enough to buy an apartment in Guangzhou... so yes... but you'd be naieve to assume everyone could... there were a lot of apartment units being bought up and leased out... some people have to rent those apartments to stay in the city and work their jobs... and they are still technically count home owners because they have an ancestral home back in their hometowns (where their Hukou is)...
And the apartent my parents used to own was in a very dirty looking slummy part of Guangzhou near the foot of a mountain... sooo much mosquitos and bugs even in the "city" because it really is near the edge of a wild forest essentially... like the Kensington, Philadelphia of Guangzhou... or the Favelas (in terms of how it looks like)...
My current house (that my parents own) in Philadelphia looks wayy nicer...
Honestly that apartment in Guangzhou was the most slummist place I ever lived in...
Maybe if you are privileged enough, you get to live in the nice parts of the city... but not us.
You have to understand, this is not because of "China Bad" attitude, my dad told me firsthand how local officials would over-report how much food they've grown to make themselves look better... you can't trust the stats... they aren't gonna count migrant workers in their stats so of course it boosts how good the stats look... because they have a whole class of second-class residents that are oppressed and unseen...
(Yes I do realize how similar this is to the US's situation with exploitation of undocumented immigrants)
And it's not disability friendly at all...
You have to work overtime to afford living...
1.5x overtime pay is non-existent in China unlike the jobs my parents have had in the US (it's unionized... your results may vary)... I mean China doesn't even allow independent unions and strike action is illegal...
No OHSA... no safety regulations... (most laws regarding safety aren't even enforced, if it even exist)
TLDR: China is pretty much a “差不多。。。 没办法。。。🤷♂️” type of place
(hope this is coherent, I'm dealing with anxiety rn so it's hard to get my thoughts together)
My girlfriend gets 2x overtime pay and 3x pay when working holidays.... Still trying to figure this country out. I saw the manual farm workers, I have seen that from the windows of a train. This place is so peculiar and interesting
The same can be said of America's culturally in groups.
Unfortunately, thanks to authoritarian control of the media, it's hard to tell exactly how many labour camps filled with "totally not homeless" people are propping up China's economy.
How do you know these camps even exist...
The documentation on how China "solved" homelessness exists, mostly thanks to previous citizens that left.
Unfortunately, reliable modern information is scarce, because that's what you get with an authoritarian regime obsessed with information control and social engineering.