source: Bellablackbrabbit on rednote
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2026
154 points (100.0% liked)
Chapotraphouse
14282 readers
667 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_%22Hope%22_poster
I never saw this version. It's surprising to me that Occupy Wallstreet failed.
It failed because it lacked a vanguard. It was ideologically incoherent and had everyone from frustrated radlibs to weird libertarians and some of the loosely organized left. It could not have succeeded because there was no cohesive ideology holding the movement together. It was an infarction point of the working class and they had no framework to succeed. Our job is to make sure that the next time it happens we can guide that energy and concentrate it into a revolutionary mass.
It also scared the Epstein class and they brought out the counter terrorism units. I've started wondering if this scared them into astroturfing the alt right.
Tea party were the ur chuds who went insane seeing a dark skinned man in the white house
It was very individualistic. Its also incredible to me that it took 5 years to mount a vaguely recognizable movement to take action after the economy crashed and the bankers got huge bonuses for crashing it. That's one of the signs that we are further along as a movement, although we def have a long way to go.
Chalk another one up for the Marxist-Leninists being right. I still remain an anarchist at heart but I take very seriously the "by any means necessary" part in my pfp
Were you there when they presented that poster to Obama? That's the 1905 battleship moment.
Like physically? No lol. I just remember when it first appeared. I just assumed it was something from his campaign team. Also what is this about 1905? What does the Potemkin have to do with this lol?
falling for this shit was so cringe even in 08
I mean I was skeptical of course but I did vote for him because at least at the time he was promising to shut down guantanmo which was only a few years old at that point. He also promised to prosecute Bush for war crimes. Of course we all knew both of those were long shots but his campaign was more revolutionary than even Bernie in 2016.
The best thing about '08 was a lot of us learned a hard lesson. Electoralism is a dead end and political power grows from the barrel of a gun.
This is a message to all of you on either side of the Mamdani thing too. It does not fucking matter, he might do some good for NY he might not. None of that matters in the big picture and getting so wrapped up in electoralism makes me want to
There's something fundamentally incoherent in pretending electoralism is a dead end while armed revolt is on the table for the American left, that couldn't be further from the truth, there is no extant American Workers Party to organize armed workers and the US military body is still cohesive and massive
Armed revolt is a viable tool for the Third World, not the Western left. The American masses are electoralist in political mode and outlook which means the left must be there to contest that ground; otherwise they'll fall for fascism
I don't believe either of these things are true tbh. There is certainly usefulness in electoralism on a case by case basis but not as any revolutionary strategy. I think at best we can mitigate harm by building parallel power as the empire declines and cannibalizes itself.
I want to do everything in my power to eliminate the Republicans. That group is responsible for so much pain in my life. They are a cancer on our society and they're never going to be on our side.
The problem I have with this right now is there are some truly repugnant people running for office. Like people that are doing awful things to our trans friends. I'm not saying that Democrats are even good on this issue, but it feels like a betrayal to not participate in trying to get rid of these bigots.
I know that lol, I'm old