I haven't listened to the TrueAnon episode in question but between this, the TrueAnon twitter profile having ace/aro in its profile as an apparent joke, and the "be normal" mantra, the pod gives me definite social conservative vibes.
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I...think I kind of understand what they're getting at? But I think they have maybe a halfway-decent point mixed with some outright bad assumptions and they're phrasing it in a really derogatory way. Like, I think the main assumption is that gay furries are furries because it's a mentally "safe" way to explore their own homosexuality, and they should be helped to accept their sexuality without the need of that medium, and, like, maybe that's true for SOME gay furries but probably not most of them.
"Be normal" is actually very good advice for a lot of leftists. Social conservatives and conservatives in general are NOT normal at all- they are in fact extremely weird.
I think this is backwards, furries are usually very open about sexuality not because of the medium, but because it's one of the most welcoming communities for LGBT+ people.
I don't think what OOP is describing is any different to any other closeted person watching porn of any kind.
It’s also archaic. Like, this was probably a lot more common in the 90’s and early aughts, but nowadays LGBT acceptance is in a much better place. It’s not perfect by any stretch, but it’s good enough that most younger gay furries are not using furrydom as a coping mechanism for not coming to terms with their sexuality.
Yeah so am I, but I don't think that's the problem with them
Like to take one example, being a vegan in the US makes me "not normal." It's a fringe movement that maybe ~1% of the population follows and that puts me at odds with how the entire rest of my society thinks about the ethics of our relationships with animals. It's weird by any meaningful definition, but it's also a part of myself I consider non-negotiable.
That's not what they mean by "normal" and "not normal." They aren't talking about being vegan. They're talking about your ability to get along with other people in a way that's not extremely off-putting.
yeah "be normal" in the TA (podcast not subreddit) context means "be prosocial and able to empathize with ordinary working people." they're a gonzo dirtbag podcast so they phrase it in a bit more of a callout/"tough love" kind of way that's mildly problematic, but the substance and intent of it is definitely correct and something terminally online leftists often need to hear.
Yeah, I can absolutely get behind a call of empathy. Empathy is good. We need more of it in the world.
I guess the problem with that definition is that "extremely off-putting" varies a lot between people. I don't find vegans off-putting at all, I think that's a perfectly normal thing to choose to be, but there are a lot of people in America who get extremely angry when a person tells them they're vegan. That shouldn't be on the vegan, that should be on the person getting unreasonably angry.
I guess what I'm saying is that I agree in spirit that we shouldn't drag interminably online BS into the real world, but I think the "be normal" mantra is unhelpful and can be easily twisted in an antisocial direction, and I think that as we see in the linked post it can get used to smuggle in widely held conservative reactionary opinions without examining them.
I think "be normal" is basically a way of saying "in order to be a successful leftist, you need to be able to function well in groups and communities, and you need to be able to relate well to the average person." Like, look at this story about Trotsky- this is why Stalin won out over Trotsky, because he was more "normal." You can't imagine Mao or Castro acting towards regular people like Trotsky. Trotsky was weird. Don't act like that.
Be normal
Don't be like Trotsky
You should see the r/trueanon's takes on veganism
I was talking about the podcast. Obviously a subreddit is going to be full of judgmental weirdos.
tbh it applies to the podcast too, but I thought you were speaking to the image linked in the post
I can't recall any quotations, but brace and liz have had a few lines I think most would receive as a minor jape that also reveal a kind of reactive antiveganism that I hope one day they look back on and cringe
edit: reactionary->reactive (as in originating from reactive aggression towards the topic at hand)
They have a pretty dismissive attitude to a lot of things they seem to associate with 'woke' liberals. Veganism, masking, ableism, etc. Kinda annoying that they behave like the caricature of "tankies" that a lot of radlibs seem to have.
Being a tankie doesnt mean you have only good takes though. Tankies are a spectrum that can range from radically progressive to frankly somewhat socially conservative (now most tankies I know are NOT social conservatives) but they absolutely do exist and I dont mean the patsoc types either. This is not meant as a dunk on tankies as a thing. But more as what I have found to be the state of tankies over multiple platforms.
Mind you tankie as a categorization is silly to begin with. But I think you get what im trying to say.
Yeah, as a big trueanon enjoyer and also
I always get annoyed whenever they make fun of veganism
Yeah, that's the problem with the slogan I think. "Normal" is such a vague and loaded term whose negation ("weird"/"abnormal") often gets weaponized against disabled and LGBT people. One can take many different meanings from "be normal."
Indeed. For most people, normal is identical to whatever their expectations balance to in any given moment
That's not what they mean by "Be Normal".
It's about being able to connect a bit with everyday life and not being terminally online. Not being a QAnon/BlueAnon type person or painful to be around. Both for personal health, and to not seem crazy when trying to talk to people about important stuff lol.
That feels like a very unusual and idiosyncratic definition of "normal" to me. Like you say "not being a BlueAnon person" but statistically there are way more BlueAnon people in the US than there are Marxist-Leninists, and they're given much greater legitimacy by at least a section of the mainstream media. It seems to be that by any reasonable definition it's BlueAnon that are the normal ones.
It also means don't be quoting Lenin at the water cooler. Be a person who is not annoying/uncomfortable to be around
I think you get less weird looks for quoting Lenin than for telling people you are vegan tbh.
You are reading way too much into this lol.
It’s just a variation on the meme about touching grass sometimes.
"You assumed 'normal' meant what it almost always means instead of inferring a highly specific and unusual definition of it" = "You're reading too much into this"? What?
I assume that such a vague and useless comment is either an attempt to rile me up or trying to pull the old trick of "winning by acting like you're winning." Not worth engaging with either way.
Hey someone taking the discussion more seriously than you or caring about it more than you isn't a defect. We covered this during our revision of the CoC.
If you don't have anything constructive to contribute other than "people who reply to me are hyper online weirdos" then you should follow your own advice and log off.
If by "the thing" you mean "blocking you and anyone else who says this," you're correct