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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Elon Musk pivots from mars colony tweets to moon colony tweets (xcancel).

I'm not quite clear on what "self-growing" means here given how inhospitable the moon is.

[–] jasper@mastodon.pointless.net 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

@BlueMonday1984 @sailor_sega_saturn One of the "Old Dreams" is self replication lunar factories - you land a small robotic factory on the moon, it makes copies of itself, those copies make copies, exponential growth, then the factories make a maglev launch system and then they make and launch a massive number of solar panels, and now you do space based solar power and beam the power to earth. Kept growing and building, and you have massive amounts of energy per human on earth with 0 pollution..

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Self growing like a video game, for example a colony in eu4, initially it costs a lot of gold per month to keep sending colonists, and when you reach 100% growth it becomes a full province on which you can build things.

If only more journalists go: 'we don't know what this means either, and when we asked him he started shouting slurs at us'.

given how inhospitable the moon is.

You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given it's the Moon a better comparison would be a Greenland colony in EU5 where it costs gold initially and then costs your precious sanity, as you are doomed to ship tonnes and tonnes of food and materials there for centuries because there is nothing fucking there and the whole endeavour was a huge mistake.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have not done eu5 so didnt know they improved the system. But indeed.

Not that it matters for the pro let billionaires colonize space crowd. As some thing some thing ai robots are magic. See also how they are planning datacenters in space, and dont think there is a real solution for the whole 'what if you need to flip a switch or replace a fan' problem.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The moment I've learnt chuds like Musk and Sammy Boi treat the speed of light as just a thing that they can solve with sufficient computational power I started treating all their claims like a 5yo talking shit. It's really all you need to know about them.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wasn't Musk financing people who were gonna "hack the simulation" at one point?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Iirc he even claimed he thought at times the world was a simulation made just for him. Im starting to think he isn't in a healthy place mentally.

E: ow god he thinks you can cool things in space, because space is cool.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could even say she is a harsh mistress.

what if the moon got mad tho

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell Luna you've been a bad boy/girl/etc and need to be punished and see what she does.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

on first reading I thought you were talking about a specific luna (who I shall not tag here) but who is definitely somewhat of a kinkposter

still might mean that, haha

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Luna is a very common transfem name

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I’m aware :)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you accept the imho insane idea that a Mars colony is worth building, using Luna as a stepping stone makes sense. You can debug a lot of issues with recycling, growing food, low gravity, slow resupply etc. with a faster feedback loop.

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You could also technically do all of that debugging before you even get to the moon, though. Also has the added benefit of not dying if something goes awry.

[–] rook@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Weirdly, the moon might actually be more hostile that mars… the dust is sharper, the gravity is lower, the radiation is worse, the nights are longer and colder, there’s less water…

It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

oh god is our childrens' 9/11 going to be a moon colony imploding

[–] oddhack@mstdn.social 1 points 1 hour ago

@hypnicjerk @rook ideally a colony composed solely of oligarchs and "AI"-driven sexbots / maids.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

There's also a better chance that Elon exits the planet sooner.

[–] rook@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He hasn’t even done a suborbital flight yet, has he? I don’t seem him being brave enough to even get as far as the moon, even assuming he’s healthy enough.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah he is one of the few space fan billionaires who actually didnt go up. Shows he at some level knows he is full of ahit.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 2 points 23 hours ago

Shhh, don't tell him.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

the virile space men will have

i've heard they like to read sf, they might want to read heinlein's luna stories and miss the point entirely

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

If you accept the imho insane idea that a Mars colony is worth building, using Luna as a stepping stone makes sense. You can debug a lot of issues with recycling, growing food, low gravity, slow resupply etc. with a faster feedback loop.

as usual, felon just has no imagination and is basing his silly plan straight off any number of scifi books. but some dipshit stan is of going to ecstatically praise him for this "revolutionary" "forward-thinking" idea