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I'd say Lin-Manuel Miranda fits that better
Lots of white people don't like Eminem because he still "raps like them"
Lin Manuel Miranda is way to woke and lib (also, brown) for those kinds of people. They, the racists, say Eminem beats black rappers at their own game.
"white people who are afraid of black hiphop" is a broader umbrella than the archetype that you seem to have in mind and 1000% includes many people whose favorite "rapper" is LMM.
This is a good point! I was not accounting for those people.
With those people I would argue that LMM isn't a "rapper"; he's a poet, playwright, composer but he doesn't make his career off of releasing rap albums. The way a rapper would do. And if they argued that I'd just shrug my shoulders and give em a thumbs up and move on with my day.
Well, let me rephrase that there are a lot of people who would identify him as easily their favorite "artist who produced raps" even if we're saying that's not necessarily a "rapper," but the fact that it distinctly is rap in some sense is a huge part of the appeal, even though the "appeal" in question heavily leans on treating rap as a novelty that is only an art in-and-of-itself insofar as you can do lyrical miracle bullshit with it. Basically I'm saying LMM is like if Lil Dicky did slavery apologia.
Edit: And some of this legacy from Hamilton is pretty enduring, like for example being responsible for the worst parts of Epic (not bad overall, to be clear, but it's got some really bad parts).
I don't know much about hip hop, but it's crazy how much someone who doesn't know anything about rap thinks lyrical miracle kind of rappers are the only cool ones.
MF Doom is better than Eminem at that shit anyway
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