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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 48 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Okay here's an opinion that'll get me down voted to oblivion but here goes:

Violence is like symptom management. If you're hurting, seriously injured etc. get that morphine. But keep using it and it becomes dependency. It's a short term solution to one specific problem and rarely solves the underlying causes. Unless you can do that, you'll be back to using violence as symptom management. Only the next time you'll need more of it, just like heroin.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Famously, the human rights gained by movements using violent tactics, such as the abolitionists, suffragettes, the civil rights movement, the ANC, were all very short-lived. Hollow victories, all.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you being sarcastic? Because we're still reaping the benefits of all of those. Violently gained interracial marriage got legalized at 25% public support while peacefully gained gay marriage only got legalized at 65% popular support. Peacefully won trans right are more fragile than violently won labor rights.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes I was being sarcastic, and I should've made that clearer. I know of no other way of dealing with the smug sanctimonious attitude of those in rich peaceful countries demanding that the oppressed turn the other cheek because "violence bad". It's this bizarre combination of smugness, ignorance of history, and effective advocacy in favor of the oppressor that I really, really, cannot stand.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Haiti should have just patiently waited to gain their independence.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I get what you're saying, where you need more solutions to a problem than just violence if you want long term change, but the metaphor you used implies that violence should not be considered.

Violence isn't the answer, it's an answer, one of many.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 10 points 4 days ago

No wonder states rarely solve problems! Their heroin usage is symptom management! /s

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

That's an apt metaphor.