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I would say starting an argument from a point of view which the other is guaranteed to agree with is a great tool to convince people.
In this case it's pretty obvious that people who say shit like "women only exist to bare children" will also look up to people with great achievements to their name. As such these two beliefs can be played against eachother.
If it won't convince the original bum saying the stupid, it will be a very spectacular way to disarm their logic in front of other people with similar but not so extreme opinions.
Sure, but it still reinforces the neoliberal view of humanity and ideology by affirming them. And what about all the millions of women who have not made any great scientific or other achievements and never will that did not have children by the age of 24? Have they then indeed failed in life?
The root implication of manversusbaby's reply is that child birth is not the only thing women can achieve. The purpose of using great examples like Marie Curie is to bury jaicilgin in the ground, not to impose greatness on everyone else.
The "less great" achievements, such as living with endometriosis, being funny, knowing a lot about birds, being able to knit a sweater, while being a woman are not forgotten, they're just not as punchy.
I'm one of those women and: Yes. What's he gonna do about it? I'm out here being a happy little failure, living rent free in the minds of alpha bros everyehere.
In capitalism you must breed or make profit, nothing else is worthwhile.