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It's really not great advice, though. 5.56 is very accurate and for the average person would be a better choice than a semi auto shotgun.
when dealing with ice a semi auto shotgun has a useful purpose: knock em back without killing. but i will point out the man with the shotgun was bracketed by a man holding a 7.62 and a man carrying a 5.56. there's clearly more consideration and coordination going on here. you're absolutely right about what's best for the average person, who i presume is not yet a member of a community defense group, but once you're in a community defense group, take a listen to what the whole group needs more of.
I know nothing about guns. I do know that ICE has body armor.
Yeah but it's improperly worn most of the time. Most of them have basic ass gun range beginner shooting stances that expose their unprotected sides to who they're facing (You're supposed aim with your chest square with the target when wearing armor)
Even with billions of dollars on hand they're still too cheap to get ++size armor and carriers for their extra big boys. So of them are wearing plates that are pushed out at a 45 degree angle by their freakishly large beer bellies LMFAO Enjoy those copper jackets that'll lodge in your cerebellum after severing your carotid arteries you worthless Nazi fuck.
Gotta get that spalling directed to their faces
Seriously? That feels counterintuitive. But my intuition is to always protect my nuts first. It makes sense though.
more reason to go 5.56 instead of shot or slugs
slugs pack a wallop. even if you can stop it from penetrating, you have to stop it from moving
see my other comment in this thread about slugs or shot as part of a communal collective presentation of face. ideally your crew has mostly 5.56 with one person with slugs. they all have their use, but you should be defaulting to 5.56
personally i lust after the .338 so the semi-auto shotty also speaks to me. i understand the practicality of having something that you can move, aim, and afford to shoot, but something about the big boom booms just draws me.
Maybe the best gun to use, is the one you don't need to shoot?
Not in this timeline, it seems.
I see you have never CQB'ed before.