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Blaming it on Patreon seems weird, they might care about the private link sharing but I seriously doubt Patreon gives a shit about the reuploads.
And the correct way for Patreon to deal with this would be to change the tokens in the private links when they find them online and tell their users that their account has been breached and that they need to update their password and RSS feeds.
I have no problem believing that Patreon would be digging through the couch cushions like this, given what I know about their financial state. CTH is in the top 5 Patreon accounts in terms of earnings, and has been for a decade, so it’s not like they wouldn’t be on Patreon’s radar. The podcast is making more money than it ever has, so I assume it’s not because the hosts are going broke and need to pump the numbers.
If they’re being too cool about letting people sidestep Patreon then Patreon may be pressuring them to make an effort to keep paywalled content paywalled. I have no idea how Patreon works as a creator nor what steps Patreon could take, but I do know that they’re a for-profit digital platform and that digital platforms are assholes who will play hardball. I’m going to give Chris Wade the benefit of the doubt here, given that they’ve spent a decade not caring whether anyone is paying them.
It would be a funny way of bringing back the podcast subreddit. I don’t ever want to go back to reddit, but I wouldn’t mind seeing what happens from the outside. I hope the mods hand the sub over and then maybe we could see some John Brown memes make a comeback.
I think the issue was that people were sharing pirated feeds for other podcasts on the subreddit so that might have alerted patreon
The amount of people in this thread, unable to believe that the money-hungry corporation is actually money-hungry, is baffling to me.
Blaming the chapo hosts directly just feels like people's parasocial relationship talking
Agreed. People here are clearly salty the chapo hosts didn't like their subreddit before and it's making them forget how every digital platform corporation has ever acted in the history of corporations.
I don't think Patreon has exclusivity deals with creators. But I haven't really looked into Patreon from a creators side.
Their Patreon account manager is probably nudging them about it but I doubt the chapos are getting coerced to do this.
The phrasing suggests that it's about the sub being used for pirating a bunch of different shows and not just chapo, which might explain why patreon would care.
That seems like the sort of thing that Chris could just say if it was the case.
I think this is him just saying it, and then he says:
And then signs it:
So you can say he's lying and I have no means of contradicting you, really, but he's definitely claiming that it's not about the chapo people siccing Patreon on the sub to shut down the chapo feed.
Hope he's not lying because I just cancelled all my memberships on patreon and told them to go fuck themselves over this.
If he's lying Patreon will be pissed off at him and Chapo for saying it's Patreon doing this.
Yeah, I believe Chris too and fully support the response of "fuck Patreon," I just try to be epistemically conservative when talking to someone who seems likely to be hostile to how I'm inclined to see a given issue so that we can focus on things that we can agree on (like the content of the message).
Patreon are dumbasses if they think that people who are pirating one creator aren't also supporting other creators. It's a huge fucking mistake to interfere in piracy at an individual-creator level because pissed off people will stop using the entire platform over one of those interferences.
They should focus their piracy-related efforts on things affecting the whole platform instead. Taking down kimono.party wouldn't cause people to cancel their subscriptions by comparison. Individual level stuff is going to lose them money where sitewide stuff would not. Sitewide stuff is just more effort and harder though so some dumbasses at the company think they're doing the right thing by going after things at the individual creator level. They're going to learn the hard way that this generates significantly more losses than it produces in gains. If I know how to pirate one creator and I'm pissed off, I know how to pirate ALL creators.
They're being massive dipshits.
Missed that part. Still could easily have said stop pirating other podcasts
I wouldn't take for granted that Patreon is interested in that counteroffer.
Patreon doesn't own Chapo, it's really not their business.
Chapo needs to make up their mind how they feel about piracy and after 1000 episodes it looks like they have decided they rather don't want it.
The threat isn't to Chapo, it's to this sub that Chapo has some connection to, which it seems they wanted to just shut down because it was a general piracy vector, and perhaps they weren't moved by the idea of the sub continuing to exist on the pretense that it is merely a source for pirating chapo since we both know that it would never remain constrained to that.
To be clear, this is a tepid defense of Chris, who I don't think could really do anything here, not Patreon.
They are communicating through Chapo. Chris could tell Patreon not threaten the sub on behalf of Chapo.
Sure they can't prevent Patreon from doing legal malpractice.
It is their business if their fees are the ones being shared to private content. They likely have a duty to enforce IP protection as part of their contract with creators.