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That seems like the sort of thing that Chris could just say if it was the case.
I think this is him just saying it, and then he says:
And then signs it:
So you can say he's lying and I have no means of contradicting you, really, but he's definitely claiming that it's not about the chapo people siccing Patreon on the sub to shut down the chapo feed.
Hope he's not lying because I just cancelled all my memberships on patreon and told them to go fuck themselves over this.
If he's lying Patreon will be pissed off at him and Chapo for saying it's Patreon doing this.
Yeah, I believe Chris too and fully support the response of "fuck Patreon," I just try to be epistemically conservative when talking to someone who seems likely to be hostile to how I'm inclined to see a given issue so that we can focus on things that we can agree on (like the content of the message).
Patreon are dumbasses if they think that people who are pirating one creator aren't also supporting other creators. It's a huge fucking mistake to interfere in piracy at an individual-creator level because pissed off people will stop using the entire platform over one of those interferences.
They should focus their piracy-related efforts on things affecting the whole platform instead. Taking down kimono.party wouldn't cause people to cancel their subscriptions by comparison. Individual level stuff is going to lose them money where sitewide stuff would not. Sitewide stuff is just more effort and harder though so some dumbasses at the company think they're doing the right thing by going after things at the individual creator level. They're going to learn the hard way that this generates significantly more losses than it produces in gains. If I know how to pirate one creator and I'm pissed off, I know how to pirate ALL creators.
They're being massive dipshits.
Missed that part. Still could easily have said stop pirating other podcasts
I wouldn't take for granted that Patreon is interested in that counteroffer.
Patreon doesn't own Chapo, it's really not their business.
Chapo needs to make up their mind how they feel about piracy and after 1000 episodes it looks like they have decided they rather don't want it.
The threat isn't to Chapo, it's to this sub that Chapo has some connection to, which it seems they wanted to just shut down because it was a general piracy vector, and perhaps they weren't moved by the idea of the sub continuing to exist on the pretense that it is merely a source for pirating chapo since we both know that it would never remain constrained to that.
To be clear, this is a tepid defense of Chris, who I don't think could really do anything here, not Patreon.
They are communicating through Chapo. Chris could tell Patreon not threaten the sub on behalf of Chapo.
Sure they can't prevent Patreon from doing legal malpractice.
It is their business if their fees are the ones being shared to private content. They likely have a duty to enforce IP protection as part of their contract with creators.