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Like, yeah, they can 'get away with' ending soft power. They can 'get away with' extrajudicial killings. They're operating off of pure machismo right now. They're getting drunk on their vices. They're stripping masks where masks wouldn't be advised to be stripped. I feel like I understand now that Fascism is, in part, an expression of weakness. They wouldn't be doing this unless they were scared. It's too volatile. It feels both too late on a power-level and too early on a popular-level. Never mind the ticking time bomb that is AI data centers. It feels like, and I'm sure this is cope, there is a timer on their ability to run the circus much longer.

My first instinct here is to doubt myself, intellectual pessimism and all. In that vein, maybe this is just revolutionary optimism, but we're at the point where it feels like there is a palpable anger brewing in the basement. I don't know. Maybe Palantir works as an anti-communist panopticon and we just death spiral forever. I don't want to lose hope.

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[–] towhee@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think Europe ever actually goes to war against the US. US could annex Greenland and Canada and EU leaders would only issue strongly-worded letters. Most that happens is they try to onshore all armaments production. The idea that the US is actually going Germany 1939 mode won't be entertained unless the US starts launching annexations of the UK or European mainland. USians won't care. It isn't as though if the dems regain power they'll un-annex the territory.

For domestic stuff idk. I went through 2020 like the rest of you. We are in an awful spot with the dems, who can very effectively channel & dissipate revolutionary sentiment. Median lib accepts the Biden years as a failure but views the Obama years as a great success. Although the left is broadly more organized overall compared to then, and most have probably recovered from Gaza encampment burnout. I don't know if any dem out there actually has the spine to sic state-level law enforcement against the feds, which would be a moment of rupture. Dems are freaks who have wanted to be "in politics" since fifth grade. Could one of them pull a wild stunt on the calculus that people would back them? It totally goes against the sort of incrementalist institutionalist personality cultivated by the party.

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We don't need the EU to do it. One day, like Germany, America is gonna bite off something bigger than it can chew. For the Germans it was the Soviet Union, for the Americans it'll be China. It's an unwinable war that the United States has been hyping itself up for around a decade, and many understand this, but it won't matter. And it'll all unravel from there. Doesn't matter how many AI data centres you have when the Pearl River Delta alone can produce more missiles in a week than you can in a year.

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The existence of nuclear weapons makes me terrified of this eventuality

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

Breaching and sabotaging nuclear launch sites should be something all forces opposed to the USA should be considering

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For the Germans it was the Soviet Union, for the Americans it'll be China.

For the American Hexbears, you need to learn this one phrase

在我最绝望的时刻,我恳求你们,给我一罐白色魔爪能量饮料,然后把我关进一个有那些酷酷的美国人的牢房里。

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago
[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 days ago

Invading the UK or the Continent is totally useless. There are no real resources. The land is not strategically placed. The US has more than it could ever need. Germany didn't go after Europe. It went after the vast wealth of Russia and Europe was a necessary stepping stone.

If the US could maintain a war machine that spanned from Greenland to Tierra del Fuego, they would have more resources than they could possibly use in an all out global war.

The problem will always be that the people will resist.