This isnt chess. The government and military are still intact, the VP seems vehemently against rolling over, it just pisses off America's enemies more and lets them know that kidnapping a head of state is now on the table and they'd better close the Kidnapping Gap and be more ready for that possibility and look into how to do it themselves. That just leads to holding foreign kings for ransom again, it's not done cause under a system that isnt absolute monarchy the snake works just fine without the head, no one does this cause it's pointless and opens up equally dirty retaliation, if a head of state orders the kidnapping of another head of state the target could be more on them personally than before, which usually people who want to stay alive try to avoid. How does this advance American Interests as opposed to a more normal act of aggression? Seems like really bad strategy to me.

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[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trumps plan is to legally takeover much of the oil reserves, with Maduro out of the way he thought it would be easier to bribe the remaining government to go along with it. Trump also thinks that the rest of the world won't really care - in the long run - about this. He may be right in that one, people have short memories, and that once it's done the ramifications will be minimal. Again, he may be correct on that.

The problem now for him in the present, is whether or not he can convince the rest of the world that the president of the country with the most oil reserves in the world ($303bn worth) is more into organising drug runs instead of oil. If he can't convince everyone of that, he'll probably still run with it. He was president when Epstein was found dead and probably still claims it was suicide, regardless that nobody on the planet believes that.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You seem to think this was a unilateral and spontaneous decision made by Donald Trump and not a military action proposed to him that he approved

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If there's a guy in the administration who is personally pushing this it's much more likely to be Rubio than Trump, anyway (and even so these things don't happen because of one guy).

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Based solely on how well most america military operations have gone vs this one, they must have been cooking this up when Biden was president. No fucking way they came up with anything thst worked in under 2 years

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm sure they've been cooking up this kind of thing for years. I was more saying if there was a specific guy that was acting as a champion for the cause of carrying it out, it would be the top gusano. As you said, obviously none of these people personally develop these plans on their own - which I'm now realizing is what the user you were replying to seems to have been saying, lmao.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

This from 2019 - https://streamff.com/v/626db426