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poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren't materialist. "all that matters is that we're working class - we're all in this together"
black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they're not personally part of the problem. "we mustn't allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we're all in this together"
female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. "this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we're all in this together"
third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. "what happened to the international working class - we're all in this together"

you don't have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby's consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege

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[-] LovesAGoodPigRoast@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To elaborate on this, I think ideologically your ideas of intersectionaility will become challenged under worsened material conditions, let alone violence. I think intersectionaility is sign of a privileged society that has worked passed the needs of survival. I mean using slavery in the US as an example, abolitionists weren't necessarily concerned about Mexican independence. Not that, that wasnt important, it just wasn't needed for survival, in that moment. I do agree that we are not at a point of survival and for the record I heavily support intersectionaility and liberation for all oppressed peoples. So I do agree with you that this space needs to be inclusionary. I'm looking to learn as much about the groups here too.

I'm of course speaking of a hypothetical that doesn't apply. My opinion is that I have a duty to my fellow humanity to abolish capitalism before a duty to my identity.

Please don't hate me for saying this, I'm new here so feel free to educate me on your perspective.