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Frieren is such a good show with an amazing premise, but also has a fucking horrible pro-eugenics narrative.
Not as bad as your average Disney film about the inherently dangerous people being accepted by the innately good people, but still messed up.
All anime has this shit. Post-war Japanese culture is basically Imperial Japanese reactionary brainworms combined with American/capitalist imported brain worms. I am yet to find basically any anime that isn't contaminated by reactionary tropes, misogyny, SA (the "lucky tumble" trope), racism, pedophilia, bio-essentialism, fascist fantasies (obsession with strength, harems, world domination, innate superiority), etc. It's deeply embedded in anime culture. Even shows like Frieren that "defy tropes" still fall into them. Even critically acclaimed anime popular in the west has this shit in it, like Berserk and NGE. It's why people used to be ashamed to publicly admit they watched it, because anyone who wasn't in the anime-cult who watched an anime used to be immediately disgusted by these things. It's not a good sign that enjoying these fascist fantasies has become normalized in the west, it's a sign that these pedophilic and fascist brainworms are much more widespread than even before, or at least that publicly admitting you are a pedophile-adjacent reactionary has become much more acceptable.
Miyazaki films are the one exception I can think of, and that's because Miyazaki is basically a communist who hates reactionary Japanese and Anime culture.
There is also One Piece, which has its own problematic elements, but doing blood libels isn't part of them. Pretty anti imperialist overall. Situation again of a guy that thinks communists are really cool though.
Still has the extreme levels of fan service and skinny young girls in no clothes, but yeah much less of the overtly fascistic undertones in things like Attack on Titan, almost all Isekais, Death Note, etc.
Yerp, definitely not lacking in some of the annoying problematic shit. But at least it's demonstrably pro liberation and pro queer revolutionary army. Attack On Titan is my go to example of an explicitly fascist anime.
i was gonna bring up one piece and say the Skypeia arc was one of my favorites, but they did the fucking thing where they were like "we know the colonizers suck, but try to work with them to achieve peace!" and I guess they do but still. smh
Yeah, I'd say that's one of the occasions where the message absolutely gets flubbed by an idealist ending. At the very least, the colonizers also have to change their ways, but it's still flubbed.
The author has a picture of che on his desk and made a Cuban army in the work that seem to be the good guys fighting the bourgeois while the hero has anarchist adventures
Under communism the only anime people will be allowed to watch will be as follows:
Most but not all Gundam shows
Nichijou
Medabots
Digimon
Kino's Journey
Miyazaki stuff
Sorry, but that's all.
Give me my VOTOMS or give me death
Looking at the plot summary on Wikipedia and it says that Votoms essentially means Bottoms, which is pretty funny. The party would have a review board to settle these issues.
Votoms fuckin rocks. Go watch it!
Ftom the rest of what I read it seems super up my alley and I was planning to. Inlove me some sci fi
It really gets good with the OVA sequels. I also like the spinoff, Armor Hunter Mellowlink (ever think "damn, wouldn't it be cool if a dude fought a mech on foot?")
Looked up just some random ass footage on YouTube and this looks like precisely the kind of shit im into. Is there really complicated space politics? Cause I love really complicated space politics
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is more of a complicated space politics anime (if not, the complicated space politics - it's very Romance of the Three Kingdoms person-focused melodrama), if you're looking for that.
There's a bit of that in Votoms, but it's not the main thing. The first arc has the main character doing a lot of
, if that sounds appealing.
this but unironically
I wasnt being ironic
After the revolution there will be a ministry of anime authorization to decide which ones get to be on the approved list.
Humblebrag: im pretty sure i may be number one in something I say being replied to with a Chad emoji.
Missing black lagoon
You can make an appeal to the Party
Megalobox is a cool anime about an immigrant who overcomes his adversity with his fists and then has PTSD from his adversity he needs to get therepy for.
Oh come on. Samurai Pizza Cats barely had any of that
To be fair, half the influence that Anima has is from western movies and shows, geniunely 90% of all hollywood movies are pedo war racist slop.
Yet to see the "9000-year old demon/dragon presents as a scantily-clad 9 year old girl" trope appear in Hollywood. Japan has it's own flavor of reaction
instead the west has Pocahontas, not 6000 year old dragon ,but still pedo stuff of a real human
Pocahontas came out in 1995. Anime had already been doing it's creepy pedophilic reactionary thing for decades at that point. I also already admitted that 50% of the origins of this shit comes from the American/capitalist imported culture. Japan certainly takes it to another level though and makes it much more overt. There are weird incel revenge fantasy animes where the entire plot revolves around SAing those who "wronged" the protagonist, I can't recall anything that depraved being mainstream in the west outside of porn. These animes are available on things like Crunchyroll and Netflix, they are "mainstream" and put up side-by-side with shows like Frieren. (Shield Hero, Made in Abyss, Solo Leveling, Goblin Slayer, Attack on Titan, Death Note, the -monogatari series are all examples of these more overtly fascist/pedo shows that are tolerated and popular in the fandom).
i remember when the nameless incel anime you are referring to was streaming and yeah, it was kinda popular. Glad I never looked into it.
Stuff like AoT and Goblin Slayer are obviously bad, but isn't the fascistic guy obviously the villain? One who loses, at that? I don't think telling the story from the villains point of view is an endorsement of the villain.
The villain (protagonist) who is shown to be extremely cool, get a hot goth girl, be worshipped as god, and then given a very bittersweet ending. If the intention was to make the teenage readers not like Light then they failed, as evidenced by every comment section ever on the subject being filled with Light defenders who believe his initial quest was righteous and he just got off track. That killing “criminals” en masse is justice.
Many saw the moral as “absolute power corrupts” and not “who gave this fascist little shit god powers”. Of course we can see that his “downfall” was inevitable since second 0 he was acting like an unhinged reactionary incel, but there are many who instead see it as a legitimate Icarus/Lucifer/downfall story where he was correct at the start - similar to how Lucifer had a point in the war in heaven (that god should save all souls instead of letting some fall into sin).
Lucifer’s original point at least had in its core a good intention, Light is like if Lucifer started out evil in Heaven already wanting to “punish” all the evil souls cause he was just inherently a bitter little shithead, but all the Light fanboys fail to make the distinction because they see being a bitter little shit as a positive thing.
I actually have a terrible hot take about goblin slayer being good axtually.
I would give a good answer if I was the kind of person to watch anime or western movies and shows (treatlerite)
Unfortunately, I didn't just fall out of a coconut tree. I exist in the context of all in which I live and what came before me
I did
A while ago, I was travelling by bus, and they played the iron man movie. I was so offended by it I stoped watching western movies. I don't remember any anime that was as bad as that.
Like I said, bad in different ways. One is chauvinist, imperialist propaganda and billionaire ideology. The others have imperialist propaganda, chauvinism and capitalist ideology as well plus pedophilia, incel fantasies and tons of sexual assault downplayed as silly goofy stuff by the main character.
I'm not going to defend anime, I also can't finish watching most series. I never saw the point of friendren for example ad dropped it after a few episodes.
Someone here recommended chainsaw man because it's politics were "death to america" and I said, "death to america, of course". it was ok, but there was a lot of lib shit, and I didn't really feel the death to america vive.
Any way. I find western tv more offensive.
the more explicit anti america parts are in part 2 and are not animated yet (portrayed as the war devil's relationship with america) but csm is more of a story about survivng abuse and grooming in general, as well as religious cult behavior.
Then, I'm looking forward to part 2. Thanks comrade.
I also hate western TV don't get me wrong. I was just ranting on subject based on the OP and the comment I was replying to. The problems with the two are different though. Western TV is pro-cop, pro-war and extremely cruel and vindictive. Anime is better on those first two subjects usually, but is more overtly pedo-ey and fan service-y, as well as more overtly fulfills taboo power fantasies like harems, vindictive/punitive SA, having special powers that make you the most special boy, etc.
One is made for American boomer war pigs, the other is made for weird nihilist incel Japanese teenage boys. Of course they will be different
game of thrones
the people in game of thrones with harems are the villains, the people in anime with harems are the protagonists. If you haven't seen anime a lot then it's hard to explain how much more overt they are about fantasy fulfillment than in western TV. It's shameless, anyone who watches them will admit to this "guilty pleasure" that is the libidinal release of fascism. This is the major appeal of fascism to Liberals, the ability to drop the mask and all of the feigned concern and just be overtly, shamelessly evil. They still get what they want, the treats, but they no longer have to pretend they are blood-free and carbon-neutral. They no longer have to assuage the leftists or their own conscious. They get off on it, it's a guilty pleasure, and it's one that anime simulates.
idk I watched neither, I just know game of thrones has stuff
Chainsaw man is specifically pro union.