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Let's see which boxes I check
likes any right wing figure at all - no
is left wing - yes
likes twitter - no
thinks genocide would solve stuff - no
wants to give tax breaks to billionaires - no
thinks random offtopic mentions of all twitter users being bootlickers are destructive - yes
thinks it's also useless virtue signaling and just a giant circlejerk - yes
obvious nazi
All I can read is "thinks it's pointless to remind people that Twitter is a Nazi bar"
You can think it's destructive all you want, but Twitter IS destructive, and the bootlickers who still frequent it are contributing to the destruction of our culture by fucking Nazis.
Yet you're virtue signalling in the opposite direction, effectively tacitly defending Twitter and it's Nazi owner.
Pardon me if I shit on anyone with your opinion, because the last thing we need is a pro-twitter circle jerk. There are already enough Nazis in the Internet, we don't need to accidentally pill more people because we want to cry about shit in the Internet.
I never liked this stupid idea. If anti-Nazis start to hang out at a bar, does it become an anti-Nazi bar? What about both Nazis & anti-Nazis: who wins? It seems you privilege the presence of Nazis in deciding the kind of bar it is with no chance of anyone else showing up to decide the kind of bar they make it with their mere presence. You privilege Nazis.
I don't see anyone applying this logic to the wider web where we have Nazi sites: no one calls the web a Nazi bar. Or the world for that matter. Is your language a Nazi bar since some Nazis speak it? Yet some people can regularly use x.com without ever running into Nazis just like the web or the world. Nazi bar is classic bad company fallacy.
The most pernicious effect of this fallacy is it just surrenders entire platforms to Nazis & pretends retreating to ideological bubbles is morally virtuous. By immaturely prioritizing comforting & unchallenging environments of social validation & self-righteousness maintained by silencing opposition over environments of unfettered public discourse that challenge us to develop intellectual depth & skill to actually debate serious disagreements, we erode critical thought, limit self-reflection & growth, and allow radicalization to propagate unchecked by exposure to deradicalizing influences & more intelligent perspectives. We promote backslides into repressive extremism by being cowardly ninnies unwilling to counter words with reason & public opinion. Have some conviction to stand up for your morality where it matters.
It's not a nazi bar because there is the occasional nazi in it. It's a nazi bar because it's led by a nazi, applies nazi standards and moderation, and therefore attracts nazis.
That owner is 1 person. This Nazi bar argument does nothing for the multitude of people left behind in an increasingly right-wing bubble because the "morally righteous" are too stuck-up or cowardly to make a stand with rational debate & deradicalizing influence where it's needed.
If Nazi standards & moderation means less policing of hate speech, we don't get that in the public square, either, yet the public is quite capable of denouncing & arguing against it there. Actual Nazis in Nazi regalia have marched & spoken there. Is the public square a Nazi bar? Moderation simply isn't needed for better voices to prevail.
Moreover, there are plenty of anti-Nazis there who stay to defend morality. Much like the rest of the world, there is also much going on there that isn't Nazi-related. Nazi bar is just a rationalization for cowards to surrender & seek comfort, because when the immoral aren't silenced, they aren't willing to seriously challenge immorality where it matters.