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[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's interesting that you can somewhat tell where you are from based on this, I learned it as BODMAS

[–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Orders.

Brackets, Orders (powers and roots), Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (32 children)

Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction

This is fucking so many people over... It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition.

Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same "weight" in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right).

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Another commenter mentioned something similar, how they're interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you say it's fucking people over.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Because the people who learn "DM" or "MD" then spend hours online arguing that you must do one before the other.

People do be arguing, lol

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeyeye, sorry, long day.

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[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I learned BODMAS too! It seems BIDMAS is another one (British I think), PEMDAS is the weird American one, BEDMAS is a thing too. You're able to vary the first letter (parenthesis or brackets), second letter (indices/exponent/"order" or "operation"), and the order of multiplication/division (MS or SM) and addition/SUBTRACTION (AD or DA)

Very interesting indeed.

We need a super position of all of them.

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Where are pemdas and bodmas users from?

[–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

BEDMAS, Canada

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think most former British colonies use BODMAS

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But the USA seems to use PEMDAS? I'm confused now...

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They mean Commonwealth countries more precisely

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I never ran into PEMDAS while growing up, in Sweden I've always been taught of it as the following order of operations:

  1. P
  2. E & Roots
  3. M & D
  4. A & S
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Technically roots are a form of exponent, just fractional (square root is power of 1/2, for instance). I can see how it could be easier to conceptualize when you break it down like that though. Neat to see the differences compared to the US breakdown :)

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Technically we go for 2. Powers & Roots, I just didn't want to break the PEMDAS when comparing. :)

[–] stray@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

e: Wanted to see if this is a thing in English.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They aren't using the same words so the shorthand (if they have one) is different. I don't think we had a shorthand for it either, we just learned it.

And we learned them in groups numbered like the Swedes

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Okay then, but, fun story, the BODMAS they're talking about is also just PEMDAS using different words and a different listed order for multiplication/division, with the understanding that it's more properly PE(MD)(AS)

The order of operations is the important bit and everyone learns it that way. What causes the arguments is when dummies online forget that M+D or A+S can theoretically be done properly in any order and that part is a matter of preference.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago

The disadvantage of a shorthand compared to just a numbered list might be that people think it's strictly one after the another instead of groups

[–] agedcorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally... bitches.