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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio apparently spoke with U.S. Senator for South Dakota Mike Rounds, and confirms (if you believe him) what most have suspected, that the "Ukraine - Russia peace plan", was a leak from Russian sources to the media.

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Rubio did make a phone call to us this afternoon. I think he made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation, it is not our peace plan. It is a proposal that was received. And as an intermediary, we have made arrangements to share it. And we did not release it. It was leaked. It was not released by our members or our representatives... This is an opportunity to receive it and that it has been utilized and delivered to the Ukrainians, and that they will have an opportunity to respond. And in doing so, you now have one side being presented and the opportunity for the other side to respond.

"The leaked 28-point plan, which, according to Rubio, is not of the administration's position--it is essentially the wish list of the Russians."

"This was a proposal which was received by someone who has identified and they believed to be representing Russia in this proposal. It was given to Steve Witkoff.

With regard to the discussion that there would be threats of items taken... information being withheld and so forth-Rubio did say that he was not aware of any of that.

Looks like Rubio is putting his foot down, distancing himself and the United States from the "peace plan". Witkoff again, looks like a complete idiot. Also saying, importantly, that Rubio is unaware of any threat by the US to stop intelligence sharing with Ukraine.

As a reminder:

Update: As expected with stuff like this, the denial and walk back from Rubio himself, who publicly states that the plan was authored by the USA.

The peace proposal was authored by the U.S.

It is offered as a strong framework for ongoing negotiations

It is based on input from the Russian side. But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine.

[–] TechnoAnomie@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Amateur hour fully taken advantage of by professionals.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Pretty much. A bunch of amateurs being taken to the cleaners in diplomacy, that have no idea on what they're signing off on. The only guy in the Trump admin you could say is a professional in statecraft is Rubio. The rest are a bunch of lackeys employed by Trump so that he can have direct control. Witkoff is the liason for direct communication with foreign leaders, Kushner is Trump's son in law, Hegseth is the drunkard that gets to play the big general, Trump hates the FBI for investigating him he put Patel in charge to keep them busy, Gabbard is in there to debunk "Russiagate", Vance is a Thiel implant they're trying to mould into a successor.

What's really surprising is just how immensely unintelligent Vance is. This is the guy who thinks WW2 ended via negotiation. Who came across as more foolish than Hegseth in the leaked messages on Yemen. He has zero idea about geopolitics and foreign policy. Which is why I'm guessing Trump is trying to pitch Vance - Rubio as a joint ticket for 2028, because even Trump can see just how out of his depth Vance is on foreign affairs.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The peace proposal was authored by the U.S.

It is based on input from the Russian side. But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine.

Yeah that sounds about right. It reads like a genuine attempt by the US to reach a deal, while stretching Russia's limits.

The use of frozen assets for pseudo-reparations (some of which would be paid to the US for rebuilding contracts) and the permanent Kherson/Zaporizhzhia freeze are probably deal breakers for Russia.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Anyone who even entertained for a single moment the notion that a plan which includes the idea of gifting 100 billion of Russia's stolen reserves to Ukraine came from the Russians should lose all credibility when it comes to commenting on this conflict. Same with the idea of allowing Ukraine to keep an army of over half a million men, or allowing Ukraine to continue to occupy constitutionally Russian territory. It was clear from the start to anyone with a brain that this half-baked "plan" didn't come from the Russians but from the incompetent jokers in the US administration trying to triangulate some nonsensical "middle ground" between fundamentally incompatible positions.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The money I can see being worth it to Russia in some specific scenarios, given the alternative wartime cost to the Russian economy - which isn't only monetary but is also limiting Russia geopolitically, as it can't devote much resources to any other conflict at the moment.

However, the billions lost would only be worth it if it meant a very favorable deal otherwise. Allowing a highly militarized Ukraine is a deal-breaker for Russia.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The use of frozen assets for pseudo-reparations

This is actually incredibly funny because no one anywhere on earth will ever trust a European bank again if this happens.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which would be another win for the Americans

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

I'd let them have that W in order to destroy the European banking system, TBH.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I honestly think Rubio told the senators the truth, and didn't expect them to go public with it. And now the walk back is necessary to keep his job.

Input from Ukraine likely consists of corrupt Ukrainian officials editing point 27 so they can claim amnesty. I don't see much other input from Ukraine.

US input is trying to make off with frozen Russian assets, if that. And the Witkoff - Kushner - Vance clique signing off.

I don't see how a Kherson/Zaporizhzhia freeze is a deal breaker. It's been rumoured to be on the table since the Alaska summit. The primary objective of a land bridge to Crimea is secure. The rest is politics, mainly cooked up by Russian hubris in 2022 when they decided to declare all of that part of Ukraine as Russian via constitutional amendments, not realising how vulnerable their position was. Russia is not stupid, they know that taking Kherson city again is years away at best. They just spent 15 months to grind away at a city with a prewar population of 60 000 in Pokrovsk and take it. Kherson city would be a much more complicated and difficult operation. Pre war population of 280 000, amphibious crossing of the Dnieper river required.

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ukraine is leaving the southern front increasingly unprotected. They will abandon Odessa & Kherson before Kiev. There are already rumors of russians preparing an invasion of korabel/ostrov island. Though I assume the actual operation is still ways off. Pokrovsk wasnt just a city of 60.000 but the logistical center of the dontesk front since 2014 and thus received the defenses of such, pokrovsk is also in a relatively dense urban metropolitan region.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

They will abandon Odessa & Kherson before Kiev.

If true then it means Ukrainian leadership is even dumber than I currently think them. Kiev isn't the lynchpin of a hypothetical postwar economic recovery, the port facilities at Odessa are. A landlocked rump Ukraine is economically doomed.

[–] Marxism_Sympathizer@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

as a counter to this, ukraine seems to have been severely weakening huge amounts of the front line in order to try and stabilize pokrovsk, saw some reporting on r/ukrainerussiareport that near huryipol (i dont know how to spell it and im not goinig to bother to look up how) that it is complete chaos over there, no orders from command, soldiers having to keep track of where the russians are with fucking DeepState (lmao!!!). all this to say by the time they would even get near kherson im not sure how much resistance ukraine will still be able to scrounge up at that point

[–] companero@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"We, a neutral intermediary, forwarded it to Ukraine, a sovereign country, who will make their own independent decision about it. But it's a terrible deal! We would never accept it if we were in their shoes!"

It absolutely was a real bilateral (US-Russian), probably work-in-progress deal that was leaked. i-cant

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Bilateral insofar as Witkoff and Kushner probably saw it and signed off on it hoping to engineer something, and Trump and Vance don't care and just want the Ukraine war to end, hence trying to force Zelenskyy to sign it. Some of the terms were so favourable to Russia I cannot see any serious decision makers within the US government signing off on this. I mean part of it was Russia having a say in NATO expansion and force posture through a US mediated "de-escalation" measure! How can anyone expect that to actually go through?

  1. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and NATO will not expand further.
  1. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation in order to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.
[–] companero@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ukrainian collapse is looming, for real this time. Both in terms of combat lines and their energy grid.

I think they could take an embarrassing peace deal as long as they can shift most of the blame onto Ukraine and Zelensky (point to corruption, perhaps?).

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ukraine take an embarrassing peace deal, sure. But some of the points were beyond that and aimed directly at countering US - NATO interests, playing on the gullibility of folks like Witkoff. Honestly incredible work by Russia here to get the plan so far. Best information operation since the Taurus leak. The Taurus leak was quite something, Germany still can't send Taurus to Ukraine because of it. In the context of this war, that's as good as blowing up the Taurus factory. And not a single bomb or missile was needed.