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I mean, let's just sit back and observe the stupidly obvious fact that Trump is lowering tariffs to lower grocery store prices, which necessarily confirms Trump knows that creating tariffs raised the grocery store prices, despite that he has said the exact opposite.
So tell me, mainstream media: Did we do it? Did we catch Trump in a lie so logically incontestable that your reporters would feel empowered to finally report it as a "lie"?
[Scans article]
...sigh.
Joke is on American customers. I bet my ass that prices either won't fall at all, or at least fall far less than the change of tariffs would warrant.
Of course they won’t. Prices never go back down. We’re still paying extra for the ongoing COVID supply chain troubles.
They can't say 'lie.' It's one of the few words you can basically never use as a journalist.
It's not about the incontestability of the truth. It's about the fact that a 'lie' (as opposed to a 'falsehood') requires intent. Basically, unless you have psychic powers, or a written, signed declaration from the person saying "Yes, I intentionally lied," you can't prove it's a lie. And in journalism, you do have to be able to prove the things you say. Potentially in a court of law.
He could just be stupid. He could just be ignorant. He could just be suffering from serious mental decline. We don't know for sure.
I get that's not a satisfying answer. We all know, intuitively, that Trump lies, constantly and endlessly. He tells himself ten lies in the morning just to get out of bed. I get it. We all know it. But journalism has to be held to a higher standard, and that standard has to be applied consistently, not just when it suits us.
Yes, all well and good, and upvoted for the rational response of course.
I understand there are standards. But the enemy of the good is the perfect, and if journalistic standards require perfect evidence and won't otherwise represent the best-fit explanation, then they are easily exploited by bad actors like Trump who will intentionally withhold perfect evidence. The public good is served by reporting from a reasonable person's perspective what the most likely explanation is, including the terminology that goes with it. Here, that is a "lie."
I'd also argue their concern in this case isn't standards, but legal liability for defamation. At least from a legal perspective, reporters and publications have clear defenses at this point to saying "lie" since regardless of subjective momentary intent, the preponderance of people / jurors should accept contextual evidence of intent like his prior statements.
And even journalistic standards should be addressable by calling it something like an "apparent" lie to allow the possibility of other explanations, while still calling it what it almost certainly is.
I see the logic, but it's still just excuses. The intensity of words matter to be accurate or to water down. Currently they are watering down. Saying it's to keep integrity while the country falls apart and also while being caught with more flagrant absences of integrity is just hypocritical theatrics and people are right to judge them for that.
Smartest thing Il Duche has done this term:
Undo a little of the stupid shit he did earlier in the term
Will it actually bring down the prices or will corps keep the prices and just make a bigger profit?
I don't think he was lying. I think he's a fucking idiot who refuses to listen to anyone else and it has taken this long for someone to drill the truth into his stupid fucking head.