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[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The problem with this excuse is that no one is immune to COVID and there is no cure for COVID. There is no evidence that the body fully clears a COVID infection. No one is "able." It is not that I am singularly "not able"—for one no one makes my stipulation for ability possible when they all have every means to, and mostly proved that they had every means to in the first year of the pandemic when everyone was still afraid and made everything digital or wore masks; nature was healing, remember? So much for that. We all should still be just as afraid of this and demanding we all take it just as seriously as we were then, and we're not. That's not on me. People like me are treated like we're yoga moms into healing crystals or chud YouTube influencers on an exclusive diet of red meat trying to "turn" everyone else with our clickbait nonsense when it's the exact opposite. You all fell for the clickbait. I am largely done with this conversation now. Let everyone catch infinity COVID forever and we'll pick up the pieces of the able-bodied like we always do. Learn the lesson or don't. Personally I'd pick a time not in the middle of unprecedented global precarity to take this bet but as everyone loves saying these days, "you do you."

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're replying to me like I think it's cool and good society moved past this as if it was over, I don't. Nor did I "fall for clickbait" I don't know what you expect me to do

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Stop making excuses for these people, mostly. They are committing violence and as long as they insist on continuing I don't see any reason to stop telling them what they are doing, especially when I know they can do better and instead choose not to. If you agree with me, why hold water for them?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you agree with me, why hold water for them?

Because their overarching point was that people should organize more. You are correct that we should be more cautious and as leftists take the situation seriously when we do on the ground organizing, thank you for that critique and the other information you provided that was definitely good, but we still need to organize the masses in order for us to achieve any of our goals.

I was holding water for the idea that this, as with all mass movements that stir up the working class's consciousness even slightly, and when contradictions are heightened, this is when we need to take advantage of the swell and meet the workers where they are so we can build them towards where we need them to be, not to let them get sucked into the machine. that's our job as leftists, we have to build the left into something real etc etc

rereading my initial comment I do see your issue, I complacently accepted as fact that most leftist spaces don't take enough precautions to keep our disabled comrades safe because that's been my experience of it (not that I'm happy with it). I'll try and do better to more militantly advocate against that culture instead of being a liberal and accepting bad things because thats just the way it is

thanks for checking me

[–] mononoke@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I appreciate your candor, friend.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago