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~20 hours ago I wrote...

I'm really shocked they didn't cave [within the first week or two]. I was nearly 100% certain they would.

I'll work on my Nostradamus more.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Meanwhile on Bluesky.

just left snippy messages for schumer and gillibrand. first time for everything i guess!

202-224-3121

"Snippy", eh? I'm stealing that for my parodies. What a fantastically lib word.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bluesky is in "Call your senator right away!" mode. It's pathetic.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

lol they “left a message” for a senator’s public number that gets probably 100k calls a day? Literally screaming into the void. Zero difference from yelling at a wall in your house, except that if you did that your neighbors might hear you instead of nobody

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

Go to the window, open it, and say...

~~"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"~~

"I'm mad as hell and my pathetic Democratic Senator can go fuck themself!"

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It'd be a bit funny if they all fed-posted in their rep's voice mail boxes

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In the next few days - before I nod off to sleepy town - I will try to get myself to dream of that.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Only you can make your dreams reality

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

hypothetically a few thousand phone calls from their constituents would accomplish something but being rude where an intern will hear you isn't worth much

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

C'mon. The reality of this is not binary. There's very large gray area between pleading by "being snippy" and being hostile by saying "Schumer can go fuck himself."

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

right, "snippy" is rude. the average liberal is so concerned with civility they would probably not f-bomb a voicemail

i'm 50-50 on whether that person in particular thinks chuck will personally listen to the messages

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I seriously don't know what "snippy" means to the average lib. Is it something like...

"Senator Schumer - I'm tempted to use the f-bomb in this message. It illustrates how deeply disappointed I am in you. Furthermore I am crestfallen that..."

i'm 50-50 on whether that person in particular thinks chuck will personally listen to the messages

I think the average phone call lib knows Schumer won't ever actually hear them. Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It's like "Field of Dreams" I guess.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It's like "Field of Dreams" I guess.

a fuckload of phone calls and physical mail does make a difference if they start doing the math and get worried about not having votes when they want to get re-elected, it's just really hard to actually get that much political engagement from burgerlanders in a non-election year. it's a little cargo-culty but it's not as feckless as the no kings shit.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

By having the vote on Sunday - Schumer made phone calls 100% irrelevant. But I guess if panicked dem voters had been calling for weeks - maybe that would slightly worry the DC dems. In this bifurcated sportsball reality - I don't think the DC dems care very much about angry voters.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

a fuckload of phone calls and physical mail does make a difference

source?

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

SOPA and PIPA in 2012 is the one i remember. there might have been a couple since then but it's not super common

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

mmmm sopapilla

is there anything that says letters and calls specifically influenced decisions? I would have thought the physical protests and even the wikipedia blackout would be much larger factors

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i'm not sure how possible to know that is. i do know that liberal in-person protesting has never accomplished anything without a lingering threat of violence, and that the dinosaurs in congress don't know what wikipedia or the internet are.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess actual hard evidence wouldn't exsist I was thinking like a statement from a politician like 'the amount of calls my office received from citizens on X issue made me revaluate my stance on it'

Err are you saying calls and letters are only effective if the include threats of violence?

Err are you saying calls and letters are only effective if the include threats of violence?

no i mean like why the 1960s civil rights movement worked (for a few decades anyway) but shit like no kings, occupy wallstreet, or the 2000s anti-war protests in the US didn't do anything

This is why when calling your legislators, it's always important to start off the voicemail message with the magic words: "I know where you live and I have seen where you sleep"

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 6 days ago

My mum is a hopeless 1960s "we protested our way out of Viet Nam" type who dragged me to one of the rallies. I proposed a sign saying "We're running out of witty slogans" which seems about right for the zeitgeist.