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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (7 children)

what are some of the all time most ludicrous and/or bigoted lesswrong posts? i am starting a podcast where my cohost and i show each other shockingly weird or bigoted texts and discuss them. mostly we're doing historical ones but rationalist stuff is fair game

[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 8 hours ago

ooh finally I’ve got a second podcast to listen to other than BtB

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It wasn't on LW proper, but Yud endorsing a pedo science-fiction book as "basically Safe For Work" has to be up there.

https://awful.systems/post/2972738

Also PrimalPoly's dating advice:

https://awful.systems/post/67

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

Sadly I misremembered and this one wasn't from LW but I'll share it anyway. I think I had just finished reading a bunch of the "Most effective aid for Gaza?" reddit drama which was like a nuclear bomb going off, and then stumbled into this shrimp thing and it physically broke me.

If we came across very mentally disabled people or extremely early babies (perhaps in a world where we could extract fetuses from the womb after just a few weeks) that could feel pain but only had cognition as complex as shrimp, it would be bad if they were burned with a hot iron, so that they cried out. It's not just because they'd be smart later, as their hurting would still be bad if the babies were terminally ill so that they wouldn't be smart later, or, in the case of the cognitively enfeebled who'd be permanently mentally stunted.

source: https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-best-charity-isnt-what-you-think

Discussion here (special mention to the comment that says "Did the human pet guy write this"): https://awful.systems/comment/5412818

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The reflective altruism guy has an ongoing series on hbd in the rat community that includes a bunch of that, you should check him out.

For example https://reflectivealtruism.com/2025/04/18/human-biodiversity-part-7-lesswrong/

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

If you want a little hit of an unfair one, might want to look into the some of the weird manosphere guys who joined LW early on. Like https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Davis_Aurini.

E: Ah doesnt seem he wrote much (e: ah seems the site doesnt show the comments, change the ones it shows and they turn up): https://www.lesswrong.com/users/aurini (or it got purged). Amazingly, he is actually not the worst: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aPCKiEd2G8H3kkdnN/the-dark-arts-preamble?commentId=3nrQddAAYnZzegPt5

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 3 points 9 hours ago

ah seems the site doesnt show the comments, change the ones it shows and they turn up

Oh man, I've found the old LW accounts of a few weird people and they didn't have any comments. Now I'm wondering if they did and I just didn't sort it

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Does Anissimov count?

[–] mii@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I think Yud's "ethical solution" to pedophilia will always have a place in my top ten of maximally unhinged shit I've ever seen on LW.

(The whole thread is a doozy.)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 21 hours ago

Also amazing how he, who wants to teach others rationality, writes a post like that which such an obvious flaw. (How do you know you can trust the sign? What stops people abusing this by writing signs themselves?)

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

this post is so mentally damaging that seeing it here two years ago is one of my most vivid sneer memories

https://awful.systems/post/694102

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So much psychic damage (and also /r/brandnewsentence material) in that thread...

The problem is solved by pairing those who wish to live longer at personal cost to themselves with virtuous pedophiles.

edit: That's not the alluded Yud's solution btw

edit edit:

I still wouldn't be all that tempted in his place, if pedophilia is merely a positive description. There's little advantage in not being a pedophile.

Man rationalists from back when they didn't worry about being youtube-ready were something else.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scott's Reactionary Philosophy In A Nutshell comes to mind. Also, don't forget to plug it here once the pilot is up somewhere. Count me as very interested.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

I will! @odiumsymposium on bsky in the meantime