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America Deserved 9/11 Megathread
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this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2023
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It was a terrorist attack on civilians. That's a tragedy no matter the surrounding context.
The surrounding context can give a different perspective on a tragedy, though. In the context of nurturing the conditions that produced 9/11, creating a civic religion around it, doing horrific war crimes as a response for the past 20 years, and then sweeping under the rug that month during the pandemic where we had a 9/11 every day, I find that humor is the best way to communicate "shit's crazy, man."
See also: school shootings, suicide.
I don't think it's correct or good to accept the idea that the people there were innocents. Some were certainly, but the target was chosen because it was filled with the absolutely NOT innocent american bourgeoisie. Not just because it was a tall building.
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The vast majority of people there were PMC at worst, not bourgeois.
If you don't consider the literal headquarters of finance capital to be guilty you are not judging things correctly.
The entire point of financial capital is that attacks against things like their headquarters mean nothing. That's not where they get their power. All you're going to do is murder replaceable cogs for no reason.
They didn't mean nothing though. That is demonstrably incorrect.
You are also applying a theory that is only supposed to be applied to the context of ending capitalism to the context of an attack that wasn't intended to do that.
If your goal is to hurt high finance then anticapitalist theories are correct, not salafism.
And of course it didn't mean nothing, it was a terrorist attack. It just wasn't any kind of remotely effective attack against finance or some bullshit like that, it was just an attack against the tallest building because what else would you attack with a plane. I'm not the one giving it meaning that the authors of the attack never gave it.
This is nonsense. Especially given that the Pentagon was hit and that's like 5 floors tall.
An attack against any other tall building wouldn't have provoked the reaction the US had to it because it wouldn't have been a targeted attack at the very people responsible for imperialism around the world. If you attacked a random residential building full of proles the ruling class would have shrugged, like they do when 2 or 3 of them collapsed last year and it was given literally no attention at all.
The reaction they had, dragging the US into multiple wars, signing off incredibly invasive laws that could be used for invasion of privacy, anti terror, etc etc. All of this came from the chosen targets of that day.
Stop talking about it as an attack on finance and start understanding it as a targeted attack to provoke a very intentional reaction from the american ruling class dragging it into a series of events that would lead to its decline.
It sucks that some average working class people died that day and in the aftermath years later thanks to the toxic asbestos that capitalists installed on those buildings. My condolences goes out to those people, they didn't deserve that, they were caught in the middle of the empire's blowback.