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[–] arsenyv@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ok so how about refusing to follow illegal orders instead of continuing to enable the orange stain.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Going and hanging out in DC is not an illegal order.

Stirring resentment among the military is the absolute best route to making sure that when they start issuing actually illegal orders (which they are definitely planning to do), they won't be followed. The fascism isn't good, but the fact that is has this particular footshooting nature is pretty excellent. Also, the people doing stuff like setting up loudspeakers in DC to play Gen. Milley's speech about Trump, dictators, and the role of the military in a free democracy are doing the good lord's work in every single way.

Also, I'm pretty skeptical that this is accidental. All kinds of convenient little accidents start happening when people start strongly resenting the position they're being put in and there are easy things they can do to spread the word.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately vast swaths of the justice system are in the Heritage Foundations pocket and can and will make those soldier's lives an absolute living hell while they're trying to fight and prove it was an illegal order.

Remember, the system was built to defer to power (like how the words of police are always considered trusted and of the highest quality by courts) and to only allow those with infinite amounts of money to be able to appeal obviously bad decisions. While waiting on justice, they may spend years inside a cell for refusing to follow a legal order.

Unless it happens en masse with the majority of the Guard doing it all at the same time, the first individuals who choose to say no will suffer greatly.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

while they’re trying to fight and prove it was an illegal order.

Why bother?

illegal order

“Sir, I’ve just realized I’m a woman trapped in a man’s body.”

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They refused to deploy to Chicago because force projections included losses on their side.

That's about as close as you're going to get.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago

Wait, what the fuck? I missed this. Where can I read more?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

So what you're saying is, to prevent being overrun by jackbooted thugs we have to behave in such a way as to cause them to predict losses.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

yeah. carry sand in your pockets.

[–] Nyoka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Don't worry, DNC party policy is to unilaterally disarm in blue states.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

probably more effective to execute as poorly as possible.