@mechoman444 Guns do more than kill. They are used for sport as well. But I would agree that killing is their main purpose. They are simply tools. People use all manner of tools to kill people. I would rather address the hatred and desire to kill. Then the tools would not be used.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ya man. Mental health. Your boy Charlie was big in putting homeless people and transgenders in insane asylums.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@mechoman444 I would love to see some evidence that Charlie Kirk ever had one person admitted to an asylum. Show me one admittance form with his name on it. You might find some videos where he claimed those people were mentally ill. I believe he honestly felt that they were and had more concern for their mental well-being than you do.

I don’t believe that agreement and tolerance are always healthy. There are things we should stand against that society accepts. That isn’t hate. #lie

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Your prose comes across as deliberately nice and tolerant, but that only highlights how shaky your stance is. You frame "tolerance" as though it excuses supporting Charlie Kirk. It doesn't. Using tolerance to shield a bigot and a racist is not a virtue, it's complicity.

Opposing Kirk's rhetoric isn't hatred. It's simply refusing to let prejudice masquerade as principle.

Also, to be clear I never ment that charlie Kirk ever admitted or had someone committed to a facility. But he is on record saying that homeless people and transgenders should all be committed to mental health facilities.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@mechoman444 If he is "on record" with statements about committing people to institutions, please share some links and I will be happy to read them. I might agree or disagree depending on the information provided.

My "prose" is just the way I speak. I don't care if you find me tolerant or not. Tolerance is not something I strive for, nor is hatred or bigotry.

I would submit that Kirk's commentary and opinions are no more hatred and vitriol than your own. You are just on opposite sides. #truth

[–] DerGiga@troet.cafe 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

@luyapapi If you come to this conclusion, you have to be very close to the Nazis.
Charlie Kirks ideology was way more hateful and anti-human.
You are a thinly veiled troll. #truth
Your faked civility in writing would be something to compliment, but we live in the age of chatbots, so it's questionable if these skills are yours.

@mechoman444

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

@DerGiga @mechoman444 If you people understood how silly it sounded to competent people for you to compare someone like Charlie Kirk to the Nazi regime...It would be comical if it wasn't so disturbing. What you don't understand is that your hyperbole undermines your position.

You are trying so hard to vilify people that you go to the furthest extreme of inhumanity instead of comparing them to less evil people. It is such a jump that it makes me laugh. You would be more effective with less.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you're the competent one.

Believe it or not it's really hard to get people to compare another person to a Nazi you really have to jump some hurdles to do that.

For example Thomas Midgley, Jr. (Look him up) Is probably one of the worst human beings ever produced by our species and yet nobody really compares him to Nazis.

On the other hand there is nothing more universally compared to Nazis than our current sitting president his rhetoric and the people that support him including your boy Charlie.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 1 points 21 hours ago

@mechoman444 I'd like to think we are both competent. You are just blinded by your hatred and bigotry against conservatives. But I guess it is acceptable when it happens on your side.

Liberals jump to the "Nazi" term very quickly. You are just mistaken about that.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not here to hand you evidence or play research assistant. I'm responding because your own tone was condescending and I'm not going to let it stand unchallenged.

Charlie Kirk was a bigot and a racist. That is not an opinion but a matter of record. His rhetoric makes it obvious and your defense of him makes your position clear.

If you think I was calling you tolerant or care if you are tolerant or not you completely miss the point of what I was trying to say.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

@mechoman444 I'm not looking for a research assistant. It just seems fair that you provide evidence for claims against someone's character. Shows that you have none. Go figure.

You call anyone whatever names you like. It doesn't make them true, even if many voices agree with you. I am glad my position is clear. In case it isn't, I am stating that you are in fact, the very things you claim Charlie to have been.

And again, I couldn't care less what you think of me. It's been lovely talking to u

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You've got to be a bot. Seriously.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

@mechoman444 My friend, I have become insanely bored with this conversation. Neither of us will be convinced that the other is not an idiot, so I'm out. This has been a colossal waste of 1's and 0's, my friend. Best wishes and so long.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

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