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Don’t feel any empathy when Nazis get hunted
When I hear Nazi I think of concentration camps and killing Jews. Kirk was a big supporter of Israel. Does Nazi just mean conservative fascist now? And if so is B. Netanyahu a Nazi? That seems weird.
Yes Netanyahu is a Nazi
So when does he start exterminating the Jews?
Edit: he literally cant be a nazi. He's a sionist.
Like the Germans they are starting with the homeless and disabled. In this case the Latino community is being targeted in the same way as the Jewish community was in Germany.
So he's a sionist then. Not a nazi. Stop throwing words around if you don't know what they mean.
I don’t know what “sionisom” is but to answer your question. Nazi, is a good way to describe a genocidal facist. The Nazis do appear to have aligned with Zionist in modern times. Nazism and Zionism are very similar because they both have goals to create a white ethnostate. The brand of nazism we are seeing in the United States is targeting and scapegoating (hallmark of Nazism) the homeless, and Latino communities. People are being disappeared off the streets without due process or accountability. In Germany the worst concentration camps were on foreign soil during the holocaust so the United States shipping people to Africa and El Salvador should worry even the most skeptical critic. RFK has talked openly about sending people with mental illness to camps. He also has openly made blanket statements about autistic people not having a life worth living.
Except the word nazi denotes and is defined by the hate of Jews.
You might say that sionists and nazis are similar, but they are categorically different. Or it would be slightly self-destructive as a Jewish state to want to exterminate all Jews, dont you think?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Nazi
Lots of ethnic Germanic folks in Israel, to be sure. Yes, this is sarcasm.
It's funny to compare the definitions of nazism in English versus Swedish though. It would appear that English speaking really want to shift what nazi means, rather than have zionism be its own term with similar meaning.
Direct translation from the Swedish version
It would be like calling the Japanese during world war 2 nazis. It's just silly.
It would appear that you really want to shift the conversation to the exact definition of the word "Nazi", rather than have people talk about facists and the problems there of.
Zionists are fascist, but they aren't nazis. Hope we cleared that up for you.
pettifogging it matters not what you call the fascists, they're still practicing fascism. This pedantry your arguing is just that, pedantry, and it's distracting.
Like i said. Some Zionists are fascists, but can't be nazis. By definition. When you start to throw words around that doesn't mean what you think they mean, they will eventually stop having any meaning at all.
Pedantry separating out one right wing authoritarian from another isn't helpful in this context. Maybe in others, but not in this one
Also, language has always evolved, the words didn't 'lose meaning' they changed meaning. 'Literally' became an antonym, it's fine.
So you're doubly wrong. Wrong for being a pedant, and wrong for your stated reason for pedantry.
Perhaps if you studied the history and origins of nazism you'd think differently. When you call people nazis, that really aren't nazis, then you just rob it of meaning.
The fact that sarcastic irony has twisted the meaning of a word faster during this age than should have been possible, only enforced my belief that the meaning of words are important. Otherwise you end up in a conversation with someone and you end up spending all of the time explaining 'your' definition of what a word means.
You are doubly wrong, distinctions between right-wing authoritarians isn't important in this context.
Words do not lose meaning, they change and are understood through context. I gave you an example already:
When I use the word 'literally' in a sentence I do not have to explain my definiton (literally/figurativly) being used.
See above, if you had read my earlier comment you wouldn't have wasted your, or my time with this. You have used the word 'literally' (I presume). You have heard the word 'literally' being used. You already knew your paragraph was untrue, you're just saying stuff at this point.
Deeper explanation. 'nazi' and 'facist' in causal contexts (like this one) can be understood as 'right wing authoritarian'. In other contexts they can't be place holders, discussing ww2 for example. But here, now, they can and are. It's understood, through context, which right wing authoritarian is meant.
Thats all well and good. But you're wrong. Nazi is a type of fascist. Zionist is a different type of fascist.
So by mixing them up you are simplifying in a manner that is reductive and wrong. It would be akin to using maoist and anarchist interchangeably because they are economically "left".
What's all well and good? I see no evidence you are listening, and some direct evidence that you are not.
Once again, you are railing against how the English language works, and has always worked.
'Literally' means both 'literally' and it's opposite 'figuratively'. People using 'literally' to mean figuratively aren't wrong to do so. They don't need to, as you suggest, define their usage of the word when using it. It's understood. Once you understand a word can be expanded to mean its opposite, and people use it just fine, this expansion of 'nazi' should be a breeze.
In the current zeitgeist, it is understood, that in casual settings, 'nazi' is used to mean 'right wing authoritarian'. Get all upset if you wish, there's a long history of people being upset about time's effect on language, I'm sure you can remember your grandparents clutching pearls at the slang and short hand you used growing up. You don't have to like it, English doesn't care. Keep up, or don't, up to you. For what it's worth, I'm one of the few people I know that still say 'whom' I type it less and less and I certainly don't "correct" people who don't because their lack of usage is correct now.
All you are doing is pettifogging.
You know the old adage "you wouldn't follow your friend of a cliff if he jumped".
I think i'd rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist.
Just because technology has created micro universes where word change meaning faster than anyone can follow, doesn't mean they are right.
Or to put it more sarcastically so you have something to think about. I literally don't care, literally.
So don't use 'nazi' that way, no-one is forcing you.
'Do you know the saying that movie was cool.' You know they aren't saying 'the movie was a low but not freezing temperature.'
So here's someone complaining about the use of 'cool' and they say 'I think i’d rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist'.
Just imagine the scenario, some people talking about a film, someone says it's cool, and here you come charging in with your pedantry. No-one is talking about the film anymore, because you're arguing about the usage of the word cool. Then you go full sanctimonious and say "I think i’d rather use the terms correctly, rather than follow the erronious zeitgeist". Is that a sufficient mirror for you.
Faster than anyone can follow? I followed it. Everyone in this thread followed it. It only seemed to be you out of the loop. That's fine, but you didn't have to expose your ignorance so publicly. You'll pick up the lingo eventually.
But you didn't explain how you were using each version of literally?! Thereby proving your earlier complaint "that it would render words meaningless" incorrect. If nothing else I am glad I could have taught you that much. Maybe if I was able to teach you that people don't have to spend all their time explaining definitions, I can teach you how silly pedantry is.
But you do care though, you obviously care.
I find it hilarious that being correct is being ignorant. It's ok that you're wrong, it's your right.
Of course i do, but since it's not clear from language that I do due to the reasons that I laid out, I understand that you're confused. See how language is confusing when words change meaning? Oh, the irony.
Someone says that movie was cool. You protest that the movie wasn't a 'low but not freezing temperature'. You receive pushback for being a pedant. You:
Your last comment made such good progress. You recognised it was your failing to understand the language being spoken. You projected that lack onto everyone else by suggesting no-one could keep up. But you recognised it was a listener's failure. Why the regression?
Communication is a co-operative tool. It is on the speaker to use language appropriate for the likely listeners true. Like an English speaker going into a rural Japanese restaurant and trying to order in English. The speaker did that, we all understood what was meant by 'nazi'.
But also it is on the listener to learn the language likely to be spoken. Like an English speaker going into a rural Japanese restaurant and getting mad at everyone because everything is in Japanese. This is you, you are in an online 'restaurant' of a sort getting mad at everyone else for not speaking the language you speak, in the way you want to speak it. They aren't incorrect, just using the appropriate language for the context they are in.
I'll note that this main character syndrome that everyone else should conform to their way of speaking is common among English speakers.
It was clear from the context. Notice how I keep making great emphasis on the context in which the words are being used. I was mocking you for a point made you made without thought coming back to bite you.
Well, Israel didn't exist when the NSDAP did, so if you apply the literal meaning of each, a Nazi couldn't support Israel. But fascism was also something that only applied to the party in power in Italy from 1922 to 1945. The terms have somewhat evolved since then; fascism generally meaning authoritarian, ultranationalistic and antiliberal. The same applies to nazism, but usually with some racist ideology with hatred for other religions.
Yes, it is a good way to describe a genocidal facist. The Nazis do appear to have aligned with Zionist in modern times. Nazism and Zionism are very similar because they both have goals to create a white ethnostate. The brand of nazism we are seeing in the United States is targeting and scapegoating (hallmark of Nazism) the homeless, and Latino communities. People are being disappeared off the streets without due process or accountability. In Germany the worst concentration camps were on foreign soil during the holocaust so the United States shipping people to Africa and El Salvador should worry even the most skeptical critic. RFK has talked openly about sending people with mental illness to camps. He also has openly made blanket statements about autistic people not having a life worth living.