Trump is going to say "I can send the military to any city any time. I control every city. Every single one. Especially the liberal ones. " And the libs are going to talk about voting.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hear people arguing about whether Gavin Newsome could win an election for president as though the election would be fair and the results respected.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yesterday I saw an unironic Bluesky post that said if Trump can run for a third term then Obama can too so Obama would win.

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

"I would've voted for Obama for a third time if I could've"

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do hear quite a lot of libs talking these days about the need for uprising and revolution. They have no coherent understanding of what that looks like or the class dynamics, but they know the voting system is a sham.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want to be optimistic but I can't stop thinking about two things I think will happen soon - maybe this year. There could be a Kent State shootings-like situation and then its awful aftermath. Back in 1970 four people shot dead by the National Guard was a massacre. But if a bunch of people get murdered by Trump's goons - republican media and the republican base will decide that being against Trump and being "violent" even if that is a total lie - can deserve an immediately death sentence and execution. They got what they deserved.

Meanwhile - the dem media and the dem base probably won't think to use the word massacre because normies don't use it anymore to describe anything that happens in the US. The dem base might indeed lose their shit but boldface name dems and the dem machine will say stuff like "order must be maintained even in this difficult time". And they'll be some indirect victim blaming - "we cannot have a rush to judgment about the events that transpired". I wonder if the dems will even have the gall to use the "few bad apples" trope to explain away a clear case of state sponsored murder.

Maybe I'm all wrong and there will finally be a lib version of the Tea Party and change will be forced upon the dem leadership. But I just don't see that happening. I imagine the base will yell they'll vote the assholes out and that they support the dems unless there's clear and immediate change. But in the end - they'll go back to doing both.

There might be some cosmetic window dressing described as "progressive" changes. If the hullabaloo caused Jeffries and Schumer to get replaced then it's meet the new ghouls - same as the old ghouls.

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

four people shot dead by the National Guard was a massacre

Spare yourself the psychic damage of looking at how many Americans had no problem with Kent State immediately after it happened.

we have always been a nation of monsterous chuds

According to Gallop immediately afterward, 58% of respondents blamed the students, while only 11% blamed the National Guard.

By November that year 65% of respondents supported cracking down on student protesters. Cracking down on student protesters was more popular than ending Vietnam at the time.