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[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I live in Sweden too (not swedish), but I actually didn't know about the cost up here.

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's something that people don't really think about.

För klarhet, fackordet för skatten är arbetsgivareskatt. "tax planning" är skatteväxling. "out of pocket maximum" och "coinsurance" är engelsk fackord för högkostnadsskydd.

Compare with this nightmare: https://youtu.be/-wpHszfnJns

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I followed you there.

Honestly, I thought it could be higher. Then compared with US it really depends of how much they earn, and some has a really high salary there.

Counting on the average I guess welfare does better, but I've on my side only Tuscany in Italy (which is between the best five), and Stockholm. Coming from Sicily probably I would have rated walfare a bit worse 😕.

[–] mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah definitely, the US system is very dysfunctional. A good amount of money simply gets lost in the bureaucracy.

Insurance companies are massive conglomerates that have to negotiate deals with tens of thousands of providers, millions of products, and millions of customers. Every Healthcare provider needs dedicated bureaucrats that can navigate the sea of paperwork. I don't have the data in front of me, but I believe the US government pays about the same amount of money on healthcare as the Swedish government.

Any difference between what a Swede pays and what an American pays is just pure waste. A wasteland of pointless jobs.

There's definitely some fuskbolag and dysfunctionalities in the Swedish system, but for the most part, Swedes are not wasting money keeping dozens of massive office towers filled with bureaucrats, and Swedes have a happier life because of it.

With regards to salary, all Americans already pay 4% off their paycheck for Medicare. So Swedes don't have lower salaries because of vård välfärd - at least not directly. But that's a complicated discussion, and we're already seeing American salaries fall drastically due to geopolitical factors. There is some aspect of the US having a monopoly on cloud services, where many top European tech works have been bought up and poached by Silicon Valley. There is also the risk of the American economy overinvesting into AI companies, with hundreds of billions of dollars already spent, and further trillions planned.