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[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do have a profit insentive though. It's just not a monetary one

[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

This is correct, phosphorus and nitrogen is exchanged for carbohydrates. Mutually beneficial symbiosis.

[-] famousringo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

I’m all about enlightened self-interest.

Like, altruism is rad and all, but some people are only ever going to be helpful if they stand to gain something, and it’s best we remind them of what they stand to gain at every opportunity.

[-] BluesF@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago

Altruism is not without reward, even if it seems like it is. No one acts selflessly for no reason, they do so because they are rewarded by their body with dopamine and other "reward" hormones - i.e. because it feels good to do so.

[-] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Ok Corduroy Jackson Jackson

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Dopamine is what drives humans.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

This is often called externalities. I don't mind this argument, after all, leftism is based on Economics. Marx was an economist. And modern economics sweeps over this to propogandize students about adam smith and grt them to argue over modrrn neoliberal issues. However, we all stand to gain the farther left we go - the only of those who don't are the owner class who squeezes us dry.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Marx was an economist like Freud was a psychologist

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

some people are only ever going to be helpful if they stand to gain something,

Only if you believe the lies capitalism created and encourages in to fruition in order to exist and survive:
https://theconversation.com/humans-arent-inherently-selfish-were-actually-hardwired-to-work-together-144145

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Benefit ≠ profit.

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