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Ummmm.
No?
Fuck nazis and kkk and southern pride and confederate apologists and white supremacists and bigots of all kinds.
Like get fucked. Straight up well known nazis can fucking die. They are worthless. They make a choice to continue being that way. They can do irreparable harm.
Like, fucking no. Just no. You're pathetic.
The ability to strip away the title of "human being" is exactly what they are arguing for. You just have different criteria.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
The world would be better off if everyone with racist views disappeared today. Let's not defend those who would not hesitate to oppress us.
Self defense is different than drunkenly flattening a pedestrian lmao
What if that pedestrian was Donald Trump?
Drunk driving, like, as a rule, is really, really bad. It's incredibly very awful. ... But I'm still gonna pop the shampaign.
Jumping back here to say that
Is the only thing I'm saying
You're arguing against things I did not say nor imply. I have made no argument here against self defense nor for civility.
I am abiding the paradox of tolerance by not tolerating dehumanizing rhetoric. Because I believe that rhetoric enables fascism.
You need to work on your reading comprehension. I have said absolutely nothing about whether or not to celebrate the death of a nazi, neither does the paradox of tolerance.
This entire conversation is on a post about the death of a nazi. "the horrible ideology took a loss" sure sounds like "the horrible ideology" of nazism "took a loss" of the death of one of their own.
To go back to the point I was making in that comment, where did I say anything about celebration?
Except I'm not. My scope has been very limited to the dehumanization aspect. But otherwise I'm done with you arguing in bad faith
You are right. If we exclude any population from rehabilitation, we exclude ourselves.
Until they are rehabilitated though, I will treat them as maggots. Being human does not automatically grant you untouchability for your actions. It doesn't absolve you of your sins. It does not mean anyone around you must tolerate your continued existence.
No, I can't blame anyone for visiting harm on Nazis. But that is a temporary solution. If we are to nullify supremacist ideologies, we must eacape survival of the fittest world views. Any ideology that requires violence will be surpassed by the next strongest, including the ideology that kills Nazis and white supremacists.
What those criteria are matters
And they're all bad.
Why do you think considering someone human is mutually exclusive with wishing death upon them/thinking it's fine for them to die.
Persecution fetish exists regardless how you treat them. Some just WANT to feel persecuted to feel like they have some kind of casus belli.
Also, you either experience and/or witness enough bigotry that you reach a point of being fucking done with the hateful spiteful pieces of shit. Apparently you're too privileged to have to care.
But let me try to make this clear again. I grew up in it. I saw it. I know and love people today who go through it. There are those who think it's just okay to decide some groups of people don't warrant humanity and to even outwardly work to make those people's lives harder or straight up fucking oppress or harm them.
Fuck. Them. All. Everyone who has even an ounce of racist white supremacist Aryan whatever the fuck thoughts or actions. Fuck their flags. Fuck their views. Fuck their lives. Fuck everything about them. Scum of the earth. The vast majority will never change. Fuck em.