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[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

twitter users: is-this is this fascism?

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, the Trots were right no-choice

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If that was the sum of Soviet aesthetic then you might even have a point. However, the bulk of Soviet art celebrates the worker. On the other hand, labour is entirely invisible in pretty much all the solar-punk aesthetic.

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (45 children)

of the first eight image results on google, six of them have people in them, and of the ones that have people in them, 4/6 of them show labour idk what you're talkign about lmao

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

lmao people standing around enjoying environments that somebody built is not what depiction of labour looks like 🤣

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 22 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Tell me you've never worked manual labour without telling me you've never worked manual labour.

There's always lads standing about, having a smoke, chatting shite, it's not all swinging hammers and rolling up your sleeves. Labour is hard, people take rests all the time without it being an official break.

But regardless, to call a movement fascist because their art doesn't depict someone swinging a hammer in every image is bonkers.

True liberation of the workers involves less work for the workers. As the Greeks put it, we should be eating figs, making art, and having orgies once our needs are met. Not working more for the sake of working. Solarpunk is utopian, utopia means rest and relaxation for the working class, not Sisyphean toil.

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you ever been in a building you didn't build?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Quick question, what's the context for my comment?

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (51 children)

are you looking for labour or construction work here

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[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

i apologize in advance, the maximum comment depth was reached, this comment is a reply to https://hexbear.net/comment/6331483

i brought it up as a counter example to the dispossessed on soviet sci-fi, before i ever called the dispossessed a foundational piece of solar-punk media

but i will agree that at the time, the concept of communism becoming a interstellar society was very real to those living in the USSR

in the material circumstance of ursula living in cold war era america, anarcho-syndicalism being applied to build socialism in a theoretical future interstellar capitalist system seemed much more plausible, which is also why the dispossessed had a second boost of popularity when solar-punk started up as a movement in between the dissolution of the USSR by capitalist encroachment and the rise of china as a second communist superpower

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