This is great! Can't wait for him to no be able to do anything due to gridlock from the NYC democratic party machine and have to capitulate constantly, and then the massive Centrist Lib media apparatus will blame every problem plaguing NYC (even if the problems predated his mayoralship) which will give the Dem establishment more ammunition to blame all their woes on the progressive wing of the party and sell disenfranchised urban poor voters on establishment Dems.

Really a big fucking win for us. Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now.

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[–] heresiarch@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

NYC-DSA has seen a massive increase in members during his campaign. His campaign has created more socialists that have joined a political party. For socialists in the current environment, I think that's one of the best outcomes of electoralism.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

DSA isn't exactly a political party though as much as I wish it were. That said, I think it's still good people are joining. There are a lot of political lessons people will never learn unless they actually get involved in organizing work.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if you want DSA to be a political party one way for that to happen is to have the chapters in places like NYC get really big.

maybe there's a path where dems continue to be geriatric losers, PSL forms a vanguard, and major DSA chapters get a few normie wins like this one and they can legitimize the vanguard instead of repeating the mistakes of the SPD.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

If DSA becomes something akin to say the Sunrise Movement where members are just volunteers and staff run the whole thing then it’s not going to legitimize any sort of future vanguard. This is a real risk because frankly most people joining DSA have more familiarity volunteering and running liberal non profits than they have experience with the real participatory democracy of a vanguard party. So yes it’s great if DSA can attract more members. However that’s not sufficient for it to be a meaningfully stepping stone towards socialism.

[–] heresiarch@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

You are correct. I'm definitely speaking to my personal ambitions lol. DSA is in a stage where they're trying to figure out what a successful socialist party in America looks like.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there a strategy to turn the DSA into a real Party outside the Democrats? Because unless there's a plan to form a real Party they're just sheepdogging.

[–] heresiarch@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I won't bore you with all the details, but yes. The details are currently what's being worked on, but there is a consensus among DSA leaders outside of the "right" caucuses that DSA needs to begin experimenting with operating as a fully independent political party where possible. I could write a longer post if you're interested, but it would be mostly internal politics stuff.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sorry, let me clarify.

Is Mamdani pursuing such a strategy?