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So, how can society overcome the rift?
Destroy business. Cast it back into the hellfires from which it came.
How do you organize society then?
Business does not equate logistics.
Edit: business leverages many useful fields ,like logistics, actuary/risk assessment, and public relations, to do one, very useless task: generate profit.
Yes. How should all of that be done?
What does that question even mean? How should logistics be done?
Spare me the Socratic method and get to your real point.
I have no point. I just want to know how those things should be organized if not as businesses. USSR had businesses, so to work without them, something else must be used to link everything together.
Your callout to the USSR belies the lack of point you professed to, as well as your astounding lack of imagination. The US Post Office is not a business and yet yearly goes about the process of organizing national mail delivery. There are plenty of organizations that operate in the abscence of a profit motive.
Hell, people could do all those things -- actuarial work, operations planning, etc -- for simple altruism. I'm a misanthrope and even I remember such things exist.
Sieze the means of production
Do you need a middle man with every transaction?
Not for every, but how do you handle the transactions to design, build and operate a mobile phone?
Does an engineer need an intermediary between them and the designer?
No.
But that doesn't scale. How should society organize for mobile phones?
Industrial engineering/systems engineering. Definitely not something a business major has any business doing their porky fingers into
Do we need multi international corporations that rival empires? There's a lot of options to address scale depending on choices we make, the communists say central planning is the answer, some anarchists say syndicates can fix this. You could create circular economies that return ewaste to the fold then redistribute the new product. There's a lot more options than you think.
Socialism
Ask korea, they have organized their society without middlemen, not even taxes