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Oh no, my miserable life that’s devoid of any connection and anyone altogether otherwise *at least contains a friend.

What the fuck man, is this a real concern average people have that I’m way too fucking alienated to understand

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Ah, how reliably the "not all men" faction shows up. Funny how the 4 day old account who mostly has posted in this thread becomes a fragile lib as soon as those beneath you call you out and make you not feel like the default anymore. Do you also think cracker is a slur? Do you think i'm being cis-sexist here? Heterophobic? Misandristic? Or are allophobia and ... uh, monogamophobia the only made-up forms of bigottry that you use as a cudgel when your lessers dare to raise their voices?

And yes, they're made up by you bad faith reddit ass debatebro. Letting aside that none of these things exist as systemic forms of opression, whereas mysogyny, transphobia, lesbophobia, acephobia and mononormativity very much do exist, i did not, at any point, say anything against allo people or monogamous people. I touched upon how i have different perspectives than these, is all. But i did call out men and the norms you use to uphold our sexual subjugation, because of course you extend that to not just the straight women unfortunate enough to only be attracted to dudes, but to all of us. And a woman calling that objectification out is what set you off and you know it. You wouldn't have felt the need to type out the longest post in your 4 day user history on hexbearand then delete it if this wouldn't have hit too close to home, Amerikan boy. But you can't say that because it would reveal how much of a mysogynist pig you are and would get you banned, so you have to resort to that kind of smug snarkyness you've just hurled at me.

And look, i'm sorry to say this so bluntly, but you have zero lived experience with how varying testosterone and estradiole levels affect your emotions and libido and what that does to you as a person. You have no idea what it means for your entire behavorial routines when you completely discard the notion of ever wanting to be seen as a man again. You do not know what societal pressures and hormonal influences do to your ability to feel and to connect to people because you have never been on the other side of this. You do not know what it's like to go from allosexual to acespec within a matter of weeks when the cyproterone acetate kicks in. You do not know what it's like to make the switch from existing as somebody just seen as some dude to somebody constantly seen as various porn genres. You do not know what it's like to suddenly lose large parts of your agency, your credibility and your ability to not be talked over and silenced due to the fact that people now perceive you as a girl. But i do. I know all of this, and more, firsthand. My hatred of men, no, don't worry, not all men, only all men who feel the need to post garbage like yours, has a firm foundation in knowing what makes you tick. I did an A/B test on that and i didn't like the results. Sorry if that hurts two of the three feelings you're still allowed to have, but it is what it is. And when i put that into words, it sets you off and you lash out to defend the status quo.

You see, just like racism isn't exclusively the fault of some deplorable hicks in the KKK, patriarchy is not this thing that's only the fault of Andrew Tate and his incel minions, it's something every man is expected to play his little part in to uphold. Including you when you get mad about queer women venting about how mainstream society does relationships. That's you fortifying a power structure. That's you silencing dissent. Do you think you're beyond this? What gives you that idea when my post makes you feel as obviously called out as it did?

[-] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it really silencing dissent to point out monogamy is more complex than your strawman? It's hardly a call out to do so. I think it is worth mentioning that merely being the mirror image of dominant structures can not only end up supporting them, but developing those structures. That isn't "not all men" or whatever, it's just respect for the dialectic. It's not 2016 anymore.

IMO There are too many performative non-Christians that are happy just making "owning the conservatives" their identity and it shows in the static discourses. This is a problem in addressing systemic issues because any attempt at actually putting vitality into the discourse beyond dunking on idiots instead of responding to the dynamics of the world is dismissed as some kind of reactionary regression or an accusation.

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