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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Religon is probably what initially does this to people's brains

Indoctrinating children into religious systems of arbitrary hierarchy gives little boys god complexes and makes little girls into property.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel bad for female-presenting people having experienced being treated worse than their male peers. I didn't grow up religious or anything, but I can sense where I could be perpetuating that hidden misogyny myself.

For example: In work and social life, I'll give my phone number away to people I meet. But I'm not interested in relationships, so I'm far less likely to give it to women, since I don't want to give anyone the impression I'm making romantic advances by doing that.

I'm pretty sure for men that aren't outright misogynist jerks or bullies, it's stuff like that where they feel as if they might be viewed as awkward providing professional favours to women when they wouldn't think twice about it for their male peers. That leads to those experiences that women find themselves unable to receive those opportunities to get ahead in their career, or aren't listened to, or have to advocate their position more when career advancement seems to fall more naturally to men.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

For example: In work and social life, I’ll give my phone number away to people I meet. But I’m not interested in relationships, so I’m far less likely to give it to women, since I don’t want to give anyone the impression I’m making romantic advances by doing that.

As someone who is relatively active in volunteering/local politics, I've been thinking about printing up some old-fashioned "calling cards" (like business cards, but not for a business). Maybe you could do the same, and seeing that giving out your contact info was such a routine habit of yours that you had a ready-made solution for it would stop women from getting the impression that you were leading them on?

...then again, maybe not. Hmm.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on where you are from, but the sort of thinking that gets people into religion gets people into misogyny even without religion in my experience.

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 4 points 13 hours ago

Misogyny is a religion. Religion isn't just myths and worship, it's also social orders and value systems.

Oh my goodness yes! Not to mention the whole if you don’t dress “modestly” it’s your fault if you get unwanted attention thing. It’s a grooming ground.