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Couldn’t have done it without you, Joe.
Joe had nothing to do with it lol. There was always a “not Trump” option.
The supreme court made him a king. He had every right and ability to prevent ALL OF THIS, and he just whined his way out of office.
An option so terrible that being not Trump was not enough to get it to the White House.
How was Harris a terrible option?
Or was it because she is a woman, and because of her color?
USA got what they deserved.
Yes Biden was maybe mediocre, but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office? It wasn't Biden that elected Trump, it was the Americans.
Blaming Biden for it is idiotic.
She was offering 50k tax breaks to small business and 20k down payments for first time home buyers, great on paper. But 70% of Americans work paycheck to paycheck, so they can't utilize that. And her healthcare for all became healthcare for some became expanding the ACA. So no help for the majority of people.
And when asked if she'd change anything, she declined. But then suddenly changed her mind and said she'd add a Republican to the cabinet. Further alienating the 70% of people that work paycheck to paycheck and anyone who understand what Republicans are. Can't forget parading around with good ol Liz too. Really winning with that one.
When asked the simple question of "Should trans people exist?" Her answer was they should follow the law. Disgusting. Unwilling to acknowledge somes right to exist in hopes of courting centrists. Instead pushing away both sides.
Her and Biden continued the genocide despite loud outcry from progressives. If progressives are such a tiny a faction that they aren't worth catering to with policy, then you can't be mad when you didn't get their vote. And if you think it's their fault the Dems lost then you should still be mad at the Dems for alienating them.
Honestly I agree with you that the US got what it deserved. But not because of its vote, rather because what we've become. Your options are continuing the status quo (ya know that one with 70% of people being pay check to pay check) or fascism. There was no right choice for most people. And I find it funny how privileged libs are to think there was.
Sigh. Gaza genocide? Immigration, including the border wall? Most lethal army in the world? The total lack of commitment to a serious social welfare plan (by election day her promises were all either completely ignored or watered down beyond recognition)? Her disdain for all her voters left of Reagan and especially the massive anti-war faction? Including Republicans in her cabinet? "Nothing comes to mind? I try not to be rude in these interactions, but you should think before you say these things. Harris 2024 was going to accomplish nothing except be an appetizer for Trump 2028, because she had nothing to offer to the people who were hurting and looking for anything resembling help.
Who do you want to justify their actions to you? It doesn't matter whether it's justified for not; it happened, it was always going to happen and whenever someone tried to prevent it people like you would scream "but fascism" not realizing they're only helping the fascists.
Imagine saying this with a straight face after the events of the past 3 months. Unreal.
What about the past three months makes Harris adopting the border wall position anything short of complete and utter stupidity?
lol 🤡
For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump? Trump doesn't give a shit, and doesn't even criticize Israel for that. It's the most moronic argument there is, yet it's still pushed?!
You need to justify it to yourself, that's the point. Why would you think they are responsible to anybody else for their vote?
Democratic flavored genocide wasn't enough for the Lemmy progressives so they aggressively campaigned for Trump to really ramp things up.
Point me to where I said it was.
Why? i never told anyone to vote for Trump.
The place where you use it as an argument for not voting for Harris.
I never made that argument. I said Harris was obviously going to lose because she was such a horrible candidate and that a lot more pressure should've been put on her by the people to avoid that outcome.
If he got an AG that would have actually dropped some cases on Trump this whole situation would have been avoided and justice would have been served.
Joe could have lit a fire under his AG’s ass and gotten this fuck in jail before he could win the election.
Biden is the only person to defeat the Orange Turd so don’t go to rough on him.
Biden is also the only person to fail to ensure a coup-leading traitor got prosecuted and thus presided over the fall of US democracy. I'll go as rough on him as I can for that, thank you very much!
Hear fucking hear!
So hilarious to come to this discussion a few days later and see every post about this particular failing goes unanswered. Even the ride or die Biden people that seem to still want to die on his hill can't really handle the how much he fumbled it.
Yeah I agree. It would have been 4 years of BS, but nothing like this. He had 4 years to plan. We would be enjoying a democrat as president today.
He BARELY scraped a victory against the most unpopular incumbent since Ford pardoned Nixon, if not ever. He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage than Hillary did when she lost the EC.
He ABSOLUTELY does not deserve credit for barely passing the lowest possible bar and then digging a hole under it for Harris to fall into.