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It’s green washing if it’s touted as the best strategy to combat climate change, which china doesn’t do rhetorically or with policy. China has over a billion people, and while they have advanced greatly with public transportation, people are still gonna keep driving. They can either keep burning gas or switch to EVs while China continues to make progress with other forms of renewable/sustainable energy. Not to mention other developing countries currently drive diesel vehicles which China seeks to replace.
Meanwhile, the US has resisted highly rated Chinese EVs and every form of renewable energy and not interested in public transportation, and instead they give Elon billions of dollars to jack off and make memes. They are not serious in anything except greenwashing.
Youre still burning gas with evs, someway or another
The turbines in the thermal electrostations are massively more efficient than your petrol vehicle lol
This is true today, but EVs can be recharged by solar and wind power just as much as by coal power, no? Doesn't an EV unshackle the concept of a car from the concept of burning fossil fuels, even if they are not practically separated today?
Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate cars. But there's no putting the toothpaste back into the tube, and I don't think we can complain that China is underinvesting in alternate forms of transportation.
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Yes I am aware of how electricity is made
No need to be snarky. You read my comment and then replied not addressing any of my points, as if you hadn’t registered them.
Not sure what more you want from me
Never said it did
What does that have to do with my comment about the viability of Evs?
Not talking about the US
Nothing to do with my comment. I’m not attacking China, chill
About 30% of energy in China is from sustainable sources, and that percentage gets higher every year.
Because many EVs are charged during peak production times, the percentage saved by EVs is probably even higher. So you're burning 30%+ less gas.
No need to be snarky. You read their comment and then replied not addressing any of their points, as if you hadn’t registered them.
I don’t need to address them because I don’t find any wrong with them, they just have nothing to so with what I’m saying
As tech improves it will get better. Itxs easier to build small scale individual uses right now. That is helping to develop batteries at scale which will eventually greatly improve efficiency of plants and will eventually have full scale solar arrays smart grids and battery plants. Peaking power and crap-it-all-ist generating on demand for maxinum short term profts is something that needs to change as a mindset.
China is going to do it first. Once they put us to shame because we're 20-50 years behind and then maybe we'll get to what we should have done. But we need to be spanked and humiliated first.