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As someone that read SO MUCH James Patterson slop as a kid because I had read so much of the library already, incl Maximum Ride among others...

bruh. itd be funny if he was in the maximum ride universe and they call him a beast because hes actually some little furry in a cage tortured by scientists

That is the charitable way to take it, yes. There is a concern about having a corporate LLM create whole features, that could lead to security problems. Most distro work isn't like that, though, its largely playing with legoes and doing small tweaks. There is also no real way to 100% determine that a commit wasn't done by an LLM, people can obfuscate that.

That is categorically not banning all LLMs, though. And again, do you think China is fascist?

You didn't answer the question. What I am saying is it is nonsensical to say something is 'fascist backed' unless you are taking a moralizing stance on a technology as a whole. Banning all LLMs is clearly bad imo, but it makes sense to care about the origin of an LLM.

Do you think China is fascist? They also back LLMs.

The guy that replied to Antoine Le Gonidec. Antoine also says llms are a 'fascist backed technology' which implies anyone that uses them are fascist sympathizers. He also said Debian was becoming a Nazi bar.

The reality is that LLMs are tools. It doesn't even matter if a fascist made a tool if you are able to expropriate that tool (e.g. open weights models, picking up a Luger to shoot a Nazi doesn't make you a Nazi).

Which one is this? Xlibre? Yeah theyre fash

And kinda as an aside, Debian and Fedora are imo the most important programming projects for communists to get involved in. Fedora I think has greater potential, atomic desktops allow a good communist developer to maintain standards easier and uplift ideologically aligned projects. Both are fairly strict about nonfree software, which is good for helping communists in AES countries get ahold of quality software as FOSS software is able to deftly dodge sanctions.

Yeah I don't think Antoine is particularly problematic but even he did fash jacketing so

From group chats afaik he's an anarchist of some kind, idk what his stance is on China. I guess he assumes they're fascist if he thinks all LLMs are fascist. If that is the case its pretty funny because China provides state funding to universities to host Debian, and it is the most widely distributed distro by universities in China as it lets them thread the needle on certain sanctions relating to copyright.

So I've contributed to Debian in the past and its my understanding that a lot of X11 fanatics (who happen to be led by a Nazi developer) harassed this guy for being on the list of people wanting a switch to Wayland (an actually properly maintained protocol). I support use of LLMs though, I think its ridiculous to be against them, they are useful and even Linus Torvalds uses them for debugging for high level kernel work. If the kernel uses them the argument kinda falls apart on the distro level. Saying a use of a tool is inherently fascist (??) is a little ridiculous, especially when you can run Chinese LLMs locally. In general there is a lot of fash-jacketing in the Debian mailing lists, almost no one really understands what a fascist or a communist even is there, I feel this kind of discussion is ultimately wrecker shit.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2025/10/msg00013.html

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how did they do the trans z dog i need that shit