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Wait, is the Debian guy being called a fascist here?
Is he actually problematic? Or is this an AI pilled dingus just using whatever words they want?
So I've contributed to Debian in the past and its my understanding that a lot of X11 fanatics (who happen to be led by a Nazi developer) harassed this guy for being on the list of people wanting a switch to Wayland (an actually properly maintained protocol). I support use of LLMs though, I think its ridiculous to be against them, they are useful and even Linus Torvalds uses them for debugging for high level kernel work. If the kernel uses them the argument kinda falls apart on the distro level. Saying a use of a tool is inherently fascist (??) is a little ridiculous, especially when you can run Chinese LLMs locally. In general there is a lot of fash-jacketing in the Debian mailing lists, almost no one really understands what a fascist or a communist even is there, I feel this kind of discussion is ultimately wrecker shit.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2025/10/msg00013.html
I took his comment not to mean that LLMs are inherently fascist, but that within professional production environments in the US and Europe, where a lot of the maintainers are from and who also work on open source projects like Debian, it is near impossible to use a tool that is disconnected from the death merchants that are Meta, Google, Nvidia, etc. You can individually choose to use Deepseek or Kimi, but you have much less control over your organization purchasing boat loads of Nvidia GPUs or buying Claude subscriptions for all their workers. And it isn't a lie that a significant push for the continued development and adoption of the technology comes from those companies, even if there is opposition elsewhere.
That is the charitable way to take it, yes. There is a concern about having a corporate LLM create whole features, that could lead to security problems. Most distro work isn't like that, though, its largely playing with legoes and doing small tweaks. There is also no real way to 100% determine that a commit wasn't done by an LLM, people can obfuscate that.