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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We once had a "moratorium" about using the -f switch on console commands (for those who don't know, -f is typically --force AKA, "execute this command no matter the consequences, I know what I'm doing.). I'll let you imagine the cause but we all knew who it was about.

Another time we had an incident where the whole login process died for the whole day. Next day we were cc'd on an email informing us that security team is not allowed to use scripting anymore :D

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

Reddit and Xitter has shown us that humans are extremely "sticky" creatures unfortunately. It takes a lot of effort and pain to get people to change their habits.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

Generally any attempts to restructure decision-making need to be also counter-balanced against the realities of running a social media and the fact that people are here for the social media, and not for the decision-making. I.e. introduce too many discussions and processes and you end up with people checked-out from the whole process due to "voting fatigue". We've tried to structure our decision-making process in a way that tries to make it as smooth as possible within the confines of the lemmy software and doesn't require endless rehashing.

Yes a consensus vote is superior to majority vote, but I think it's just not feasible with 1K+ Monthly active users. Even the discussions in the current voting threads become almost unmanageable. Consensus is great if we could organize the FAF around small instances based around affinity groups, where each affinity group would do a consensus process and bring the results to a larger confederation decision making, but the realities of webhosting and alienation make this practically impossible. But it's nevertheless what we've been trying to soft promote with the FAF itself.

Yes vouching should be more common, but at the same time, it's not easy to understand who someone is from online comments, and fascists, entryists and wreckers are really fucking good at pretending just long enough to get such approvals, so I understand people being cautious. And the other part is that people just don't bother to understand how to vouch for others.

Second approach, maximal autonomy:

This is just not a practical approach, especially in a very hostile online space, inundated with fascists, bigots, and so on. A lot of people join our instance because they don't want to take the immense amount of effort needed to curate each and every interaction reactively. A lot of people want to just join an instance and use the threadiverse without having to worry about encountering, say, genocide apologists in every discussion. Is there space for such "manage your own blocklist" instances? Sure, there's already plenty of them out there such as lemmy.zip and many people flock to them for precisely that reason. But not every instance has to work in that way and we choose not to.

And shared blocklists are effectively the same thing we're doing right now, only with more steps in between. Instead of trusting the admins of your instance, you're now implicitly trusting the blocklist curators instead.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I plan to reply tomorrow but for now I'll clarity that there's not multiple classes of voters. Everyone with the right to vote (admins , supporters, vouched) gets the same voting power

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

It's called commoditizing your complements. It's a complex strategy which Google has done before with Android and Chrome. They're masters at it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

"They hated him because he spoke the truth"

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

I'm leaving this up because you did get affected by a mod action, but please try to follow the posting guidelines next time without trying to start drama about unrelated topics.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not electoralism. /0 is an outreach instance, so we allow space for discussion. Some specific anarchist comms have hard anti-electoralist rules to prevent constant arguments, but it's not an instance-wide rule.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

They won't be able to access it with a lemmy.world account though as lemmy.world has blocked !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

"you have a screenshot from a nazi website, you must be a nazi"

Not what I said, but go keep digging...

Your instance stance on wishing death on Jews speaks pretty loud.

No such stance exists in our instance, so you're a proven liar as well.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fediverse is exactly like email and blocking domains should only be done based on spam

I don't think this one is true. They pre-emptively defederated hexbear early on and they defederated anarchist.nexus due to one mod not even interacting with them.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

None of that is true, but good that you brought it up when caught spreading neo-nazi disinfo (not to mention browsing neonazi forums) so people can the kind of person who spreads this sort of misinfo, is the same type which believes neo-nazis.

 
 

Cross-posted from "What's it like for you?" by @LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone in !autism@lemmy.world


 
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We beat 'em before (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 
 

Includes a very interesting section in the middle how community organizing is very efficient at stopping violence and how they do it.

 

Cross-posted from "The ultimate centrist" by @corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net in !chapotraphouse@hexbear.net


These two things are the same i-love-not-thinking

 
 
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