OrionsMask

Those values have always been the enemy of the USA.

I really am starting to believe he's stupid enough to do it. And that this timeline is fucked up enough that he might well get away with it.

This is too vague to really offer any meaningful advice about, but:

even if they have good praxis or ideologically align with our goals: they're advocating for ideas which would undermine our work in the longterm.

Say this person wasn't in the picture, are you on track to building socialism/communism/a better world in X number of years? If the answer is yes, great, carry on, you're doing brilliantly. If the answer is no, perhaps it's worth considering where time and effort might be better spent than chasing away someone who you've decided has a slight chance to undermine the goals that you aren't actually in any position to achieve.

Sorry if it's blunt, but this mentality is why I struggle to hold onto hope for the western left. Everything reeks of online brainworms but the vast majority of online discourse is completely irrelevant to the outside world. We only try to embrace the most terminally online thinking among us, despite those people being the least capable of actually making any lasting change in the world. We pretend we're building the future and this person with the wrong views on outdoor cats is going to spoil it all if we don't drive them out, but we aren't building anything and we just lost a potential comrade.

No, no, the real tragedy is that an old white man with dementia is retiring from politics.

I don't know enough about the intricacies of Indian politics to be able to discuss it specifically. However, my position is that any people who blindly accept their political environment, prop up and defend the systems of oppression without critical thought, for their own benefit (even if that benefit is small), should not be surprised when the victims of that oppression and their sympathisers see them as the problem. If the oppressed groups of India feel contempt towards the benefitting majority's lack of action, my sympathy is with the oppressed, not the masses.

To me, it's clear as day that the people who do not question their political environment usually do so because they benefit from it in some way. And they end up becoming the shields of that environment. When they decide to be a shield for genocide, imperialism, hegemony, they become part of that political environment. It doesn't matter whether it's intrinsic or they do it because they don't know what else to do, they become indistinguishable from the enemy.

Okay, but where do we go from there? That political environment isn't going away, it's there by design, and soon their ignorance and bigotry fuels back into the machine that created it and the world suffers. People are genocided, people are conquered, people are displaced as their countries are coup'd and invaded. The ignorant and bigoted are there to tell you that it's right because it's being done by America and its interests.

I believe we're long past the point where it matters whether it's intrinsic or not. The result is the same, because the masses do not have the power or will to break away from their political environment. And until they do, they're complicit.

Let's also not rule out that they still wouldn't have arrested him.

And here we see why every cracker suddenly knew what DEI was last year. Whitey already using Trump as an excuse to begin the attack on minorities that they've been planning the last few years.

How does this compare to how covid started?

Is there gonna be a megathread with all the information? Do we have to sign up?

We do have a finance comm but it's not super active