Right-opportunism and tailism on my hexbear? It's more common than you think

If Galloway was completely immovable on green energy/trans rights, I don't think he'd be offering Corbyn to lead his party

Stalin would've had them both shot. Your thoughts on that?

Kind of interesting that the name works though, considering that the jacobins were bourgeois liberal revolutionaries.

He condemned Hamas and Oct 7th when it happened lol. For me the dividing line would be recognizing the Al Aqsa Flood as genuine expression of colonized people under military dictatorship fighting for liberation, rather than an act of "terrorism" against "innocent civillians" (which is what Lula characterised it as in his condemnation).

Though it's a different context, I think in State and Revolution, Lenin says something similar, that the real mark of a revolutionary (or something along those lines) is not just in recognizing the class struggle, but embracing the dictatorship of the proletariat.

I don't have books that disprove your idea besides general Marxist and Maoist works, but approaching from a Maoist perspective, I would critique the first part of your thoughts because I think it falls way to deeply into great man theory.

If the communist movement faltered because of the death of people like Fred Hampton, then the movement was weak to begin with and probably would have faltered anyway had those people stayed alive/true to the cause. Successful communist movements do not rely on strong role models, as you put it. You can have all the strong role models you want but it really means nothing if: a) the internal strength of the vanguard party is weak, b) the relationship between the vanguard party and the oppressed masses is weak, c) the unity of the united front is weak, d) the conditions necessary for revolution simply aren't present (crises, specifically)

• As formulated by Huey Newton with his theory of "revolutionary suicide", but also just by intuition, the death of a great number of people, civilians and revolutionaries alike, is inevitable in revolutionary war. Any revolutionaries like Hampton that were killed by the state may have been killed later on when the movement shifted to people's war. How many "great, strong" revolutionaries do you think were killed during the Long March? A proper vanguard party and united front should be prepared for this inevitability by maintaining strong internal unity, linking themselves firmly with the masses, political education etc. Or do you think the solution would have been to wheel Fred Hampton in like a bulletproof steel vessel or something, lest he be destroyed?
• There were plenty of great revolutionaries who existed contemporaneously to Fred Hampton -- he certainly wasn't the only "great revolutionary" of his time. Many of them either a) fell to revisionism (Angela Davis, Eldridge Cleaver) b) were killed, imprisoned, or exiled for life by the state (Imam Jamil al Amin, Mumia Abu Jamal, Assata Shakur) c) or just died of natural causes after a life of being a successful revolutionary (Kwame Ture).
• The New Left of the 60's, and their organizations and revolutionaries, were plagued by a great number of internal issues (misogyny, improper political education, splits/lack of unity, lacking security measures, adventurism), and these issues led them to be especially susceptible to being vanquished by the state powers. IMO this is what actually led to the downfall of the BPP and the other 60's orgs, not so much Fred Hampton's death.

and in a formal sense, by pushing parents and teachers that would pass those revolutionary behaviors and lifestyles down to their students to the periphery of livelihood and often killing them through social murder.

Don't know what you mean by this, you could either elaborate using more accessible/clear language, or I can accept it if the question isn't meant for me lol.

You're seeing the opinions of the western left, and in our countries our movements have only just been rebounding after decades of very harsh repression and propaganda, so it'll take more time, struggle, and political development for people to see the difference between social democracy and revolutionary society. It is unfortunate, but for now, many will be captivated by the former.

Another big gripe is that social-democracy is just capitalism, and we are opposed to capitalism.

but that criticism doesn't really hold up when you ARE the global south and it's your resources getting plundered by imperialists

For the same reason, it doesn't work to materially improve conditions for the 3rd world. The only solution is revolutionary socialism.

Seriously it’s fucking nuts. I saw a post on r/judaism, which is a thoroughly zionist sub that I lurk sometimes to see what zionists are saying, about a person complaining that they didn’t feel comfortable wearing a sweater with a latke on it to a party, something really inane like that, because they were scared of antisemitism.

Actually here is the post, just found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/s/ZkIh2l7ZsJ

Feeling sad about showing my Judaism this holiday season

After seeing the vile responses to quite a few Hanukkah well wishes posts on social media, I am nervous to share my Jewishness this season. We have my work holiday “ugly sweater” party tonight in our downtown area (large metro city in FL), and I don’t want to wear my ‘spinner spinner latke dinner’ sweater in fear of someone retaliating in public. It’s making me very depressed all around having to think like this.

THERE ARE BABIES UNDER FUCKING RUBBLE, like just the sheer scale of human suffering and devestation in Gaza is so imaginable, and you’re worried about a fucking SWEATER???? what the actual fuck?? I mean don’t get me wrong it really sucks that people feel scared to express their Jewishness and America absolutely is really antisemitic, but this is really pathetic.

”The Palestinian cause is not a cause for Palestinians only, but a cause for every revolutionary, wherever he is, as a cause of the exploited and oppressed masses in our era.” —Ghassan Kanafani, Palestinian revolutionary

Edit: meant to reply to the person you’re replying to, just want to echo the point that Palestinians absolutely accept others advancing their struggle :)

Not to mention, the american revolution happened because the settlers wanted to keep their slaves, keep expanding their colonies and genociding indigenous people, and didn't want to pay taxes on shit. And it's permissible and noble for them to revolt under those conditions

Meanwhile it's bad when Palestinians rise up when they have been refugees and ethnically cleansed for 75 years

If hamas is in germany, does that mean hamas is hiding among the german public and using them as human shields? Does that mean we get to shoot, bomb, starve, kill, and torture germans in schools and hospitals and churches indiscriminately until hamas is eliminated?

Dude, WHY would you post something like this on the clearweb. You still have time to delete this

The more involved I am in IRL organizing, the less interested I am in this site and the more I find it downright cringe…the things you guys talk about, even a lot of the topics brought up in this thread, don’t matter at all outside of this site.

Edit to bring it closer to the top of my post: I’ve been here since the start.

I used to browse r/FULLCOMMUNISM years ago as a teenager who was new to and interested in communism, until I politically outgrew it. Kinda starting to feel the same way about this place, that like my politics have changed enough to outgrow y’all. Btw I’ve been here since the site was started.

Also, Maoism (and I’m not talking about gonzaloism, weird cult stuff, or 3rd worldism) would solve 99% of the problems of the western left. That’s probably the bigger unpopular opinion no hexberian would want to hear lmao. The Maoist anti-CCP movements in the Philippines and India make any movement here look complete child’s play. In fact they make western movements in general look like child’s play…the Black Panthers (who I idolize btw lol), the closest we’ve ever had to a “vanguard” (supposedly? even though the BPP was more of a broad unity group, rather than the most advanced sections of the working class that a vanguard is supposed to be..anyway), took 2 decades of fascism and the assassination of Fred Hampton, and were vanquished. Meanwhile, 3rd world movements, which any hexbearian would roll their eyes over, probs because they’ve been going on for so long, have endured decades of CIA-backed forced disappearences, imprisonment, torture, surveillance, and killings of 10s of thousands of their comrades (how many Indian and Filipino “Fred Hamptons” do you think have been killed in the protracted people’s wars so far?) and yet they’ve only continued growing. Without selling out like the Communist Party of China has. This is the kind of politically mature, advanced, anti-revisionist movement, nothing less than the movement to establish a revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat, that I want to build in this country, which is probably a different vision from some DSA settlers who stan china because it’s done social democratic stuff for its people lmao. Now I’m not mad at americans or the movement here, and I totally understand why it’s so impotent, but kind of going back to my first statement my experiences on the streets are really different from the concerns and topics prioritized here, because I meet a lot of people who agree with me. They’re not interested in caping for Shenzhen sweatshops, they’re interested in building socialism.